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City teachers fleeing New York at an alarming rate: report
NY Post ^ | June 24, 2019 | Selim Algar and Aaron Feis

Posted on 06/25/2019 10:58:44 AM PDT by EinNYC

A staggering 41% of city teachers hired during the 2012-13 school year left the system during their first five years on the job, according to a new report.

City Comptroller Scott Stringer said Monday that turnover among fledgling educators shell-shocked by the city’s public schools is wrecking classroom continuity — and he called for a new “residency” program to stem the exodus through improved training.

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To: Hoffer Rand

You’re not excusing the culture, you’re SAYING WHAT IT IS.

I know, personally.

The adults are children who really don’t know the difference between 5,000 and 100,000 bucks. (yes, i’m serious)

They don’t know what debit cards or credit cards or stocks are.

These are folks in their 30s.

You’d be horrified.

Then again, maybe you wouldn’t be shocked at all.


21 posted on 06/25/2019 11:46:05 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

You my friend are exactly correct. Public education is a service industry. Hire the newbies at entry level salary and work them like dogs. After 2-4 years they quit and you hire a new batch. As an urban teacher of 29 years they hate me cause I’m a survivor. They continue to give me shit schedule shit kids and no pay increase. They want me gone. I have no integrity it’s merely a job with partial health insurance and a 50% after 30
years of psychological and emotional abuse. I survive because I don’t care.


22 posted on 06/25/2019 11:47:32 AM PDT by krug
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To: EinNYC

No amount of $$$$$ will keep them there. Lets open our borders, maybe we can recruit new teachers. I taught years ago, now it seems that M13 is there in the district I taught in.


23 posted on 06/25/2019 11:48:06 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: dp0622

You’re 100% correct. Sorry if it sounds racist but the fact is the NY schools are full of black kids who are criminal thugs who respect nothing and no one.


24 posted on 06/25/2019 11:49:47 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: tennmountainman
Please don’t bring your liberal values to TN.

Obviously you don't read many of my posts on FR. Anyone who would think me a liberal is grossly misinformed. As a matter of fact, the harassment and pushing out of teachers in NYC is particularly targeting the conservative teachers who have morals and conservative values, like integrity.

25 posted on 06/25/2019 12:01:50 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: 1Old Pro
The poor children, many Blacks, have no way out unless they can escape from thee awful schools and get into non-union schools with discipline and order.

And who do you think MADE those schools "awful"? Mostly the black students, with their anti-education attitudes, cutting classes, disrupting classes, violence, threatening teachers, etc. They crap up their own neighborhood schools, then are bussed to better schools, which they promptly turn into garbage cans like they left behind.

26 posted on 06/25/2019 12:04:52 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
The poor children, many Blacks, have no way out unless they can escape from thee awful schools and get into non-union schools with discipline and order.

Florida just increased its voucher program to pay for students who want to escape the public schools. That program is now under a ferocious attack by left wingers and the public schools. They will cite some school that has under-performed or defrauded the voucher system and tar the lot with accusations. No where do they mention that the voucher schools produce much better results than the public schools.

27 posted on 06/25/2019 12:18:33 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: dp0622

The teachers coming into the system are literate in the particular methofology their school of ed espoused. They know very little about anything else. When the start in NYC they are required to attend workshops in their assigned school’s methodology. They are coddled and supported by the school admin. And yet they leave. Why? Many leave for better paying less stressful jobs in the burbs. Others to have kids andvraise a family. Oth er s because they simply are overwhelmed by the behaviors, both of the kids and the admins
When I began in the City in 86 a new teacher was handed a red binder for his homeroom’s attendance, a set of room keys and a handshake from the boss. 12 of us started together in 86. I was the first to leave, having done 13 years in Catholic schools, after 25 years. The last two of our class have their last day tomorrow. The rest retired in the last six years.
What’s different today? The people at the HQ have decided that you will teach their way, interact with the kids thrir way. Grade your kids their way. Or be on the highway


28 posted on 06/25/2019 12:18:44 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: EinNYC

They need a wall to keep the teachers in.


29 posted on 06/25/2019 12:20:43 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: BBQToadRibs

I suspect another element that makes it more attractive can be boiled down to the VALUES system of the community where you are. It is probably less likely that the teachers are forced into teaching far-left ideology from preschool through high school.


30 posted on 06/25/2019 12:23:59 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: EinNYC

No reason for tenure. They already have union protections far beyond the poor schlubs who pay their salaries, massive vacations, and giant and early retirements.


31 posted on 06/25/2019 12:29:30 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: EinNYC

It’s almost as if putting government in control of education doesn’t work very well, even if you consider that the employees are the system’s main constituency.


32 posted on 06/25/2019 12:34:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (It's the guitar solo! Everybody polka!!!)
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To: EinNYC

“Participants would receive direct mentoring from another teacher for that year before being formally hired the following year.”

LOL

Giver that mentoring duty to incumbent teachers and watch more senior teachers leave, with the position that such duties are impossible without it taking away from their own classroom time.


33 posted on 06/25/2019 12:45:49 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: DeFault User
Florida just increased its voucher program to pay for students who want to escape the public schools.

I have personally witnessed the effects of bussing. Bad students with attitudes NEVER pick up better study habits from good students. What happens is that the good students pick up smarting off to the teacher, not doing homework, disrupting the class, cutting class, and all the other behaviors guaranteed to produce failing results from the ghetto incomers. Even if the student you mention make it to the voucher schools, the voucher schools usually have the option of tossing disruptive or poor students right out the back door, back to public schools. Thus, the "better results" of which you speak come about from cherry picking.

34 posted on 06/25/2019 12:51:58 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: dp0622

I’ve seen it firsthand working at a thrift store accessible by city bus. So many of these adults are fundamentally retarded. I’m amazing at what they don’t know. Half the time I can’t understand what these people are even saying. Even the so-called educated ones speak in urban patois.


35 posted on 06/25/2019 1:30:15 PM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: EinNYC

Wasn’t talking about you. I was referring to the article.


36 posted on 06/25/2019 1:33:36 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: Scarpetta

#### em.

I’ve been working with two PR kids in brownsville to change their lives around.

they were 13 and 15 when i met them.

i don’t know the outcome yet but they are FAR different than before we met.

But honest, i’m getting tired of playing make believe daddy.

if i walk, they will fall right back again.

but it was not my responsibility to begin with.


37 posted on 06/25/2019 1:54:58 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: EinNYC

My grandma taught in NYC Public for 55 years, for most of it she was “making Americans”, as she would say.

She died at 94, and at her funeral I met some of her primary school students, now in their 60s and 70s who owed her the realization of their American Dream.

I’m glad she’s not around to see it now.


38 posted on 06/25/2019 1:59:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: EinNYC

By and large this is not a problem with the teachers. This is a problem with parents. And it’s been going on, and getting worse, for years.


39 posted on 06/25/2019 2:58:38 PM PDT by upchuck (No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
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To: dp0622

They will revert back to the lowest common denominator because water seeks its own level. It takes work to lift yourself out of a dismal situation, unless you have natural genetic ability (intelligence). Like “Flowers for Algernon,” they will forget all that you’ve done for them - unless they are not totally moronic.


40 posted on 06/25/2019 3:27:07 PM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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