Posted on 06/25/2019 10:58:44 AM PDT by EinNYC
A staggering 41% of city teachers hired during the 2012-13 school year left the system during their first five years on the job, according to a new report.
City Comptroller Scott Stringer said Monday that turnover among fledgling educators shell-shocked by the citys public schools is wrecking classroom continuity and he called for a new residency program to stem the exodus through improved training.
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You’re not excusing the culture, you’re SAYING WHAT IT IS.
I know, personally.
The adults are children who really don’t know the difference between 5,000 and 100,000 bucks. (yes, i’m serious)
They don’t know what debit cards or credit cards or stocks are.
These are folks in their 30s.
You’d be horrified.
Then again, maybe you wouldn’t be shocked at all.
You my friend are exactly correct. Public education is a service industry. Hire the newbies at entry level salary and work them like dogs. After 2-4 years they quit and you hire a new batch. As an urban teacher of 29 years they hate me cause Im a survivor. They continue to give me shit schedule shit kids and no pay increase. They want me gone. I have no integrity its merely a job with partial health insurance and a 50% after 30
years of psychological and emotional abuse. I survive because I dont care.
No amount of $$$$$ will keep them there. Lets open our borders, maybe we can recruit new teachers. I taught years ago, now it seems that M13 is there in the district I taught in.
You’re 100% correct. Sorry if it sounds racist but the fact is the NY schools are full of black kids who are criminal thugs who respect nothing and no one.
Obviously you don't read many of my posts on FR. Anyone who would think me a liberal is grossly misinformed. As a matter of fact, the harassment and pushing out of teachers in NYC is particularly targeting the conservative teachers who have morals and conservative values, like integrity.
And who do you think MADE those schools "awful"? Mostly the black students, with their anti-education attitudes, cutting classes, disrupting classes, violence, threatening teachers, etc. They crap up their own neighborhood schools, then are bussed to better schools, which they promptly turn into garbage cans like they left behind.
Florida just increased its voucher program to pay for students who want to escape the public schools. That program is now under a ferocious attack by left wingers and the public schools. They will cite some school that has under-performed or defrauded the voucher system and tar the lot with accusations. No where do they mention that the voucher schools produce much better results than the public schools.
The teachers coming into the system are literate in the particular methofology their school of ed espoused. They know very little about anything else. When the start in NYC they are required to attend workshops in their assigned school’s methodology. They are coddled and supported by the school admin. And yet they leave. Why? Many leave for better paying less stressful jobs in the burbs. Others to have kids andvraise a family. Oth er s because they simply are overwhelmed by the behaviors, both of the kids and the admins
When I began in the City in 86 a new teacher was handed a red binder for his homeroom’s attendance, a set of room keys and a handshake from the boss. 12 of us started together in 86. I was the first to leave, having done 13 years in Catholic schools, after 25 years. The last two of our class have their last day tomorrow. The rest retired in the last six years.
What’s different today? The people at the HQ have decided that you will teach their way, interact with the kids thrir way. Grade your kids their way. Or be on the highway
They need a wall to keep the teachers in.
I suspect another element that makes it more attractive can be boiled down to the VALUES system of the community where you are. It is probably less likely that the teachers are forced into teaching far-left ideology from preschool through high school.
No reason for tenure. They already have union protections far beyond the poor schlubs who pay their salaries, massive vacations, and giant and early retirements.
It’s almost as if putting government in control of education doesn’t work very well, even if you consider that the employees are the system’s main constituency.
“Participants would receive direct mentoring from another teacher for that year before being formally hired the following year.”
LOL
Giver that mentoring duty to incumbent teachers and watch more senior teachers leave, with the position that such duties are impossible without it taking away from their own classroom time.
I have personally witnessed the effects of bussing. Bad students with attitudes NEVER pick up better study habits from good students. What happens is that the good students pick up smarting off to the teacher, not doing homework, disrupting the class, cutting class, and all the other behaviors guaranteed to produce failing results from the ghetto incomers. Even if the student you mention make it to the voucher schools, the voucher schools usually have the option of tossing disruptive or poor students right out the back door, back to public schools. Thus, the "better results" of which you speak come about from cherry picking.
I’ve seen it firsthand working at a thrift store accessible by city bus. So many of these adults are fundamentally retarded. I’m amazing at what they don’t know. Half the time I can’t understand what these people are even saying. Even the so-called educated ones speak in urban patois.
Wasnt talking about you. I was referring to the article.
#### em.
I’ve been working with two PR kids in brownsville to change their lives around.
they were 13 and 15 when i met them.
i don’t know the outcome yet but they are FAR different than before we met.
But honest, i’m getting tired of playing make believe daddy.
if i walk, they will fall right back again.
but it was not my responsibility to begin with.
My grandma taught in NYC Public for 55 years, for most of it she was “making Americans”, as she would say.
She died at 94, and at her funeral I met some of her primary school students, now in their 60s and 70s who owed her the realization of their American Dream.
I’m glad she’s not around to see it now.
By and large this is not a problem with the teachers. This is a problem with parents. And it’s been going on, and getting worse, for years.
They will revert back to the lowest common denominator because water seeks its own level. It takes work to lift yourself out of a dismal situation, unless you have natural genetic ability (intelligence). Like “Flowers for Algernon,” they will forget all that you’ve done for them - unless they are not totally moronic.
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