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Why did socialism fail in the USSR?
Russia Beyond the Headlines ^ | June 18, 2019 | Georgy Manaev

Posted on 06/24/2019 1:58:15 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

At the dawn of the USSR, hopes of the imminent global rule of communism soared high among leftists of the world. But in a few decades, it became clear that the socialistic ideals of Lenin had failed. How did this come to happen?

“It is important to distinguish socialism from communism,” says Elena Malysheva, dean at the Division of Archival Studies at the Institute for History and Archives. “While socialism was the formal type of state administration of the USSR, communism was the ruling ideology. The project of the socialist state was initially utopian and populistic.”

“The Soviet project contained elements of what we now call ‘a social state’: social mobility, civil society institutes, social support, free health services, etc. But, because of the utopian nature of the project, this all couldn’t be implemented in full,” says Elena Malysheva. “Non-separation of powers, self-administration of the people – all this demands high social responsibilities that Soviet society didn’t have.”

“The Party apparatus and the state apparatus had merged on all levels: executive, administrative and communicative level,” Malysheva says. “In case of any crisis in either one of them – the other one would go into decline, too. So, when democracy started to develop in the late 1980s, the Party couldn’t hold the power. Although the Communist ideology in itself had the capacity for survival, the merging with the state apparatus doomed Communism.”

The Chernobyl catastrophe showed that the executive branch was rotten to the core. After Mikhail Gorbachev started social and political reforms, the unstable equilibrium of the Party and the State fell apart. After the introduction of real elections, the peoples of the Soviet republics showed a strong inclination for sovereignty and the opportunity to make their own decisions...

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: aoc; bernie; berniesanders; cuba; nicaragua; presidentreagan; ronaldreagan; russia; sanders; socialism; socialismsucks; teardownthiswall; ussr; venezuela
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It succeeded stalun had nice life and morning strawberries and plenty of nubile females what else could matter?


41 posted on 06/24/2019 3:54:57 PM PDT by genghis
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It failed because it is socialism. It is always doomed to fail. Any system the penalizes producers and rewards non-producers is doomed at the start. There is no “correct” way to implement socialism. It is proven guaranteed failure.


42 posted on 06/24/2019 4:22:08 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Socialism and Communism have the same results. The elites keep their wealth and confiscate yours.


43 posted on 06/24/2019 4:28:22 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (yawn)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Apologists for communism and socialism, often say that it was just never implemented properly.

It is against human nature, and it will never work, anywhere. Period.

Many Catholic types of Priests and Nuns are living a communist style of life, but this is by choice, and it doesn't always work.

You can only impose communism by force, because given a choice, humans will always do what they perceive is best for them, not the 'common good'.

44 posted on 06/24/2019 5:32:57 PM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Socialism failed on day one in the Ussr and continued to worsen. It doesn’t work, never did, never will.


45 posted on 06/24/2019 6:07:38 PM PDT by buffaloguy (MSM: Wind up dolls of the DNC.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
couldn’t be implemented in full,” says Elena Malysheva...all this demands high social responsibilities that Soviet society didn’t have.”

I get it..!

They --the same commie initiators, that is-- will go ALL the way SOMEWHERE ELSE..!!

Gosh I WONDER where that SOMEWHERE ELSE will be...?

Can you guess..?

46 posted on 06/24/2019 6:13:09 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Its funny, and sad, that John McAfee has fled from the Bahamas to Cuba a few days ago. He's on the run for refusing to pay his US taxes (for the last decade).

Now he's tweeting all sorts of anti-capitolism stuff and touting how great Cuba is. I think he's now being forced to "work" for Cuba. Sucker.

47 posted on 06/24/2019 6:20:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Gen.Blather
Some things are too good to pass up. 😄
48 posted on 06/24/2019 6:35:58 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Socialisn = crony capitalism.
A;lways. No matter what.


49 posted on 06/24/2019 6:43:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

because socialism is contrary to human nature.

In a nutshell, that’s it. That’s why socialism always fails.


50 posted on 06/24/2019 7:00:18 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: eyeamok

A communist is a socialist with your gun.


51 posted on 06/24/2019 7:02:43 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Socialism sometimes is wrongly used to include Democratic socialism (which has it's own faults but is to be treated differently)

Socialism is social i.e. government control of the means of production

This fails in anything except a simple farming community producing a few agricultural products

Socialism, even communism (common sharing of fruits of labour) can work very well in a kibbutz or a closed monastery BUT that kibbutz/monastery functions as a single person (corporate entity) interacting with other people (either individuals or corporate entities)

If you try to control more than simple agricultural goods then the system fails, as happened to the USSR in the 1950s

Take a simple case of - manufacturing wrist watches.

how do we know how many watches the public NEEDS? Some people may like more than one, others may not even want one. Some watches may last a few years, others a few lifetimes. It is impossible to track. Better for market economies like separate organizms to live and breath and die

Mobile phones are a classic example - giants like Motorola or Nokia were killed by newly evolved creatures

Socialism can't work, it's been proven over and over again and even theoretically it can't work

Now as to Democratic socialism - which is a capitalist economy but where you have a social net. It can work in a small, mono-ethnic, high-trust society. But it can't work in a multi-ethnic (even if all the ethnics were say "white" - say if you mix Scots, English and Welsh together, it still won't work)

But, imho pure laissez faire anarchism, without rules, won't work either - make the playing area free for all, but with strong penalties for bullying or breaking rules.

52 posted on 06/25/2019 1:24:12 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

bump


53 posted on 06/25/2019 2:50:41 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: USS Alaska

No thanks anti-Catholic bigot.


54 posted on 06/25/2019 1:02:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie
No thanks anti-Catholic bigot.

I've been a Catholic for over 70 years with 16 years of Catholic education.

I have 50+ year personal friendships with multiple Priests and one Nun {she is a sister of another friend}.

I go to Mass and engage in the Sacraments, so I'm not sure where you got that I'm anti-Catholic.

There are some Catholic Priests that practice voluntary communism {communal living with no personal wealth}, the Benedictines for example.

Relax. jac.

55 posted on 06/26/2019 6:01:40 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It fails everywhere whenever it’s tried.


56 posted on 06/26/2019 3:57:17 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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