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1 posted on 06/04/2019 6:19:05 AM PDT by vannrox
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I remember the Y2K hoax


2 posted on 06/04/2019 6:20:40 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower tAraffic keep right)
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CW2 will resemble the American Revolution, which was a real civil war, with atrocities especially in the South.


3 posted on 06/04/2019 6:28:54 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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I think that #7 at the end of the article is where Chicago and other cities are at.


4 posted on 06/04/2019 6:30:02 AM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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My wife had NPR on this morning and they were calling for the government to investigate ‘Right Wing Extremism’ and how Trump is promoting right wing violence. They want the FBI to go after anyone they don’t like.


6 posted on 06/04/2019 6:36:09 AM PDT by dljordan
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Just my personal opinion but I say if Barr let’s the coup conspirators walk the government of the USA is finished. The libtards have been trying to Cloward Piven it to death for 50 years or more. The thing that saved it was “conservatives” trying to “save Our Country”. Once we realize it ain’t our country anymore and our hope is for what comes after the USA there won’t be ANYBODY who wants to do anything to “save the government of the USA”. At that point it’s over. Again, just my humble opinion, but how can a government survive when NO ONE wants it?


7 posted on 06/04/2019 6:40:44 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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7. Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.

Any cities with “leaders” who tolerate ANTIFA violence - case in point, Portland and Seattle - are already at this point.


8 posted on 06/04/2019 6:43:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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Northerners were descended from Puritans who sailed on the Mayflower, and the Southerners were descended from the Norman conquerors that took England in 1066 but got booted out after having lost a war in England.

The yankees were mostly from East Anglia, which was an Anglo-saxon area conquered and settled by Vikings. Virginians were settled mostly by people from Wessex, which was an area where the Anglo-saxons defeated the Vikings.

From this perspective, the American civil war, in a way was a continuation of the War between Anglo-Saxons and Vikings,

9 posted on 06/04/2019 6:44:50 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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On a scale of 0 to 10 (where 10 is a Civil War very soon) we are, at most, at a 2.

Most folks in the U.S., are well-fed, and have plenty of toys. The furnace works, and the air conditioner works. The government is often heavy-handed, but it is not tsarist-oppressive. And the military is content.

True, there are plenty of folks who are upset about a lot of things. But how many folks are angry enough right now to seriously contemplate going out and waging war against their fellow citizens? I’d wager not many. Maybe 1% of the population.

Of course, a black swan event could occur. Like maybe the food chain breaking down for some reason. But after that, anarchy would occur. Not a civil war.


13 posted on 06/04/2019 6:47:28 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Im with him on the not before 2024. When Trump leaves office all bets are off.


18 posted on 06/04/2019 6:57:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: vannrox; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Prepper ping - ( becoming aware and evaluating social and political discord )

"While we can’t predict catastrophic storms with 100% accuracy,
it’s probably about time that someone started looking at the horizon
to see what they could see."
OODA Loop

Societal factors that.. might lead to civil war:
Economic metrics - instability, income disparity, jealousy..
Organized violence metrics - some subtle, then organize overt violence ..
Political instability metrics - faction creation, leads to intollerance..
Sites banned - silencing/ ignoring oppostional voices..
Number of illegal immigrants per month - new cultures and volume of people who oppose assimilation ..

Your thoughts and comments welcomed.
The time to prepare for war,.. is during peace.

19 posted on 06/04/2019 7:01:17 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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6. People actively avoid being near those of opposing ideology. Might move from communities or states just because of ideology.

That’s why I left California...


24 posted on 06/04/2019 7:19:50 AM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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A slow breakup...

Florida’s a Republican State - we should be able to limit democrats moving here. California’s a liberal State - they should have the right to restrict new Republicans moving to their State... After a white we have two countries...


35 posted on 06/04/2019 8:18:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Joe Biden will be the Bob Dole of 2020... Democrat's are gonna dump him soon.)
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Inflation of basic necessity prices should be on the list.


36 posted on 06/04/2019 8:19:36 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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Bump for later.

I was a Cobol programmer using punch cards that helped create the scare.


38 posted on 06/04/2019 8:28:09 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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If in the likelihood that Trump is re-elected, I look for mass protests quickly turning violent. This will escalate to political assassinations, terrorist bombings and burning cities. I would expect martial law to be declared in some areas with US military forces being used to put down the insurections. This left wing violence may trigger reprisals by well armed right wing groups. 2021 may not be a very good year for anyone.


45 posted on 06/04/2019 9:20:17 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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If Joe has a job and a wife and a mortgage, well, there just won’t be action. I meant war, silly.

In the 4-month-long Finnish Civil War [during which about 15 of the population of Finland died; it took the United States four years 1861-1865, to kill off about 2% of its population]some of the most serious and efficient killers were the women. And there were the Lottas the Lotta Svard.

I expect that the American woman will prove the same. Some will be widows; others will bring Hubby along for the party. Some will not.


46 posted on 06/04/2019 9:27:56 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: Travis McGee

This essay should be of interest to you, Matt.

I’d be interested in your thoughts.


52 posted on 06/04/2019 9:39:15 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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I’m at # 6. I want nothing to do with them and avoid them as much as I can.


56 posted on 06/04/2019 9:42:50 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Following is my take on the steps that will lead to actual civil war.  I humbly call it the Wilder Countdown to Civil War II™.
  1. Things are going well.
  2. People begin to create groups.
  3. People begin to look for preferential treatment.
  4. Opposing ideology to the prevailing civic ideology is introduced and spread.
  5. Those who have an opposing ideology are considered evil.
  6. People actively avoid being near those of opposing ideology.  Might move from communities or states just because of ideology.
  7. Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.
  8. Opposing sides develop governing/war structures.  Just in case.
  9. Common violence that is generally deemed by governmental authorities as justified based on ideology.
  10. Open War.

 

I think step #8 is out of place. We have been at this step for quite some time now. If I focus on "governing" then yeah. We have had state and federal laws designed on ideology requiring us to support abortion, queer marriages, border invaders, and so much more.

70 posted on 06/04/2019 11:55:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Free Lazamataz)
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We don’t have the economic conditions for Civil War 2

If we did and “
expect whoever wins to pursue a policy of revenge at the end, especially if it’s the Communists. This is founded based on every single communist revolution ever. The end of Civil War I occurred in a growing young country with the opportunity to move West. Now? Whoever wins will cleanse whatever areas they take.”

The Communist don’t win because they fight for suppression, people fighting for freedom are more incentive ized

However, cleansing will take place just not an absolute numbers like the other side would do


71 posted on 06/04/2019 12:01:58 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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