Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question ‘Do you believe in God?’ Peterson said, “I think that Catholicism — that's as sane as people can get.”
Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.
He explained, “Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?”
“To believe, in a Christian sense,” he added, “means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.”
Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:
“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.”
See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.
Kinda what I was thinking.
Rome has only dogmatically defined a very small number of verses in its claimed 2000 year history.
You'd think after all that time they'd gotten around to defining them.
But hey....at least they have a scorecard!
Why no,
funny you should say that when
quite the opposite is true.
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I read that twice, and I had to laugh a second time.
Well, then tell us.
Or admit you got nothing.
................. To that add godless catholicism... from the Vatican down.
Please post away the scriptures Rome has provided a dogmatically defined exegesis upon.
The “facts” you cite prove the survival of the Church. Infiltration, debauchery, few left all prove it, although the African Church and a huge movement of faithful Catholic young around the world proves your “few” in error.
There was a Reformation” over the sinful in the Church with a resulting Catholic Counter Revolution which resulted in Trent and an articulation of and renewal of adherence to the historical teachings of the Magisterium.
But that still will not change your mind I do not think.
Let me just say few mean nothing. One person obeying Christ through his Church and the Sacraments as He commanded is proof enough for those of good will.
Amihow,
That was the most limp support of a claim that I’ve witnessed on this board.
It also reveals how quickly a catholic prefers the story of Catholicism, especially when someone points out the reality fails to match the theoretical claim.
“The “facts” you cite prove the survival of the Church.”
The facts prove the fish hat rots from the top down.
Christ has removed the candlestick from churches for far less than the sin of Catholicism.
It is reasonable to assume this happened to Rome a thousand years ago.
It also proves Catholics are blind to the reality of what Catholicism actually is worldwide.
You made a huge claim.
Now you reduced it to one theoretical person proves your huge claim.
Not remotely.
Some where you have lost your ability to think rationally it appears. No one can give you the “proof” you seem to need on a forum like this and you seem to not have the good will to seek the truth yourself. But if I am mistaken about you, I suggest you start with a reading of the documents from the Ecumenical Councils of the Church for the continuity of Dogma. Remembering that Vatican II was a restatement and development of doctrine in more understandable modern language. Then read Cardinal Newman on the development of dogma.
Good start I think. Other Catholics can add other or better suggestions.
Good searching.
Rather, you made a huge claim.
I asked you to back that claim up with anything that would lead an objective person to think, "gee, maybe his big claim is correct."
You offered that if one theoretical person anywhere obeyed the church, it was proof of your huge claim.
I pointed out you failed to support your claim.
In fact, failed three times now.
You probably want to see my tax returns, too.
Nope.
In the original language the word was for believers was the ekklesia.
1577 ekklēsía(from 1537 /ek, "out from and to" and 2564 /kaléō, "to call") – properly, people called out from the world and to God, the outcome being the Church (the mystical body of Christ) – i.e. the universal (total) body of believers whom God calls out from the world and into His eternal kingdom.
https://biblehub.com/greek/1577.htm
If you really want to get technical the only modern day denomination mentioned in the NT is Baptist...as in John the Baptist!
Will the Roman Catholic denomination withstand all of its problems? Time will tell. But because a "church" withstands time means nothing.
Lots of other "churches" have been around a long time...but they're not Christian.
That's where The Enemy dwells.
But for those who trust in God: we are His, we, the Church, are His Bride, and it's a whole new ballgame.
1 John 3:18-20
Children, let us love not in word or speech but in deed and truth. This is how we shall know that we belong to the truth and reassure our hearts before him in whatever our hearts condemn, for God is greater than our hearts and knows everything.
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another, because love is of God; everyone who loves is begotten by God and knows God.
Hopefully the entire gamut of self professed "Christians" on this site will watch it and re-evaluate their own actions and words in relation to their own belief.........
Exegetical tip: Do not confuse carnality with incarnation.
But it's OK. God knows your heart better than you do, and He, your trustworthy and lifelong Friend, will be your Judge.
Thank you mucho, Hot Tabasco.
He made it very clear, nobody's right. Only Jesus was a true Christian.............
Everyone else is a wannabe.............
De nada...........
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