Posted on 05/29/2019 7:50:34 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
The regulators who gave us Europes clean diesel debacle are back for more
..latest megadeal: Renault promised a fleet of electrified cars, and Fiat Chrysler access to the U.S. market.
...Renault will receive a chance to be part of Chryslers profitable U.S. business, Chrysler will receive an opportunity to be part of Renaults unprofitable EV business.
...Two consultancies between whom no love is lost agree on one thing: Giant EV losses are looming for the global auto industry.
passenger cars just arent that big a part of the alleged problem. To make any dent at all, the electricity they run on cant be from burning coal.
...It only offends against the principle of tact to say that Renaults appeal is to defray Fiat Chryslers cost of meeting EV mandates that will have no impact on an alleged climate problem.
...Despite the urgent pretense otherwise, Europes politicians were not innocent victims but coconspirators in peddling the clean diesel fraud to the worlds voters and car buyers just a decade ago. What shell game they concoct to soak up money-losing EVs and keep their auto industries afloat through the next disaster remains to be seen.
(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...
Such a deal... We buy, we trade, we sell...
Get them here!
Sears & K-Mart part Deaux...................
From the WSJ comments:
Many (including secured creditors) are still waiting for Fiat to contribute all the small car technology to Chrysler with which to manufacture those vehicles in the United States. Obama, Rattner, Bloom???? Any estimate of when that will happen??? Thats why these three gave Chrysler to Fiat years ago.....
As far as the USA goes, all these car makers are the Crap of the Crop. Each and every one epitomizes the worst the auto industry has to offer. Only Mitsubishi could make this list complete.
Chrysler’s currenty smaller cars are uncomfortable. I have rented a Sebring, a 200, and a Dodge Avenger. All forced legs in ridiculous positions. The rental Corolla was more comfortable. Of course none came close to my Buick Roadmaster station wagon.
You realize none of the vehicles you named are remotely current models?
Two forces will doom EVs. Gas prices have plummeted and will likely stay that way for at least a few more years.
Second, gas engines are getting much more efficient. A four cylinder turbo can produce power similar to many V8 muscle cars of the 60s-70s.
EVs, for the most part, are actually coal-fired cars, which the tree huggers refuse to believe. Convenient and plentiful charging stations are still years away.
Those are essentially all the same car. And they were crap, IMO. I got an Avenger rental while my Accord was in the body shop. Boy was I ever happy to get back to my own car.
I had a rental Corolla in California in 2017. Can’t say I cared for it too much, either. But better than the Avenger.
Renault is also partners with Mitsubishi.
Gas prices have plummeted and will likely stay that way for at least a few more years.
With that bit of knowledge, you could make a bundle over in the futures market/ or maybe not? Go long!
That said, I do hope you are correct.
Second, gas engines are getting much more efficient.
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
As maximum efficiency is approached, the gains become more costly.
Yes, there is more to squeeze out but at a slower pace and higher price, and start drilling everything to save weight.
And then we have the Atkinson cycle of Prius fame.
NOT the good old Otto cycle blasting out the ponies.
Yes, Toyota has a combo engine too...
And don’t forget the diesel, twice the efficiency of gasoline, but something went wrong there...Damn nazis!
We are early in battery development and late into ICE.
Still should be some low hanging fruit in the battery business. ICE???
Electric motor vs ICE?
Motor one moving part, and it simply goes round and round
ICE, lots of fun parts doing interesting cycles.
Just consider the poor unfortunate piston?
Going from a dead stop(TDC) to ~60 mph midway, back to a dead stop (BDC), per stroke and you get TWO STROKES PER REV!! and that is a very quick zero to 60!
Yes, depends on stroke and R’s.
There you go, all is complete.
#8 One storm away leaving a town full of people stranded as no electric power available.
This is far worse then taking away lanes of roads which have already killed people in brush fires.
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