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ONE MAN’S UNLIKELY QUEST TO POWER THE WORLD WITH MAGNETS
WSJ ^ | 16 may 2919 | DAN NEIL

Posted on 05/17/2019 12:01:57 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

...he has invented a magnetic generator, a flywheel system that extracts usable energy from the interplay of exotic magnets—also known as a free-energy device, a cousin to the fabled perpetual-motion machine... He will have also achieved something that has eluded great minds from Leonardo da Vinci to electrical pioneer Nikola Tesla. How is that even possible? “Tesla didn’t have rare-earth magnets and digital machine control,”...

If there’s more energy out than in, we throw away the textbooks and send [Mr. Danzik] half a dozen Nobel Prizes, because one isn’t enough.... , the R32 Earth Engine, hucks two 900-kilogram flywheels at speeds between 125 and 250 rpm, generating 240V or 480V at 100 amps. On the high side, that’s 48 kilowatts, about what a small backup diesel generator puts out. But unlike a diesel generator, the company says, the R32 produces no emissions, no noise (the unit comes in a vacuum-sealed, tamper-proof housing) and uses no fuel. ...If the Earth Engine is an illusion, it’s a spectacularly elaborate one with no clear way of paying off. IEC isn’t selling, or even leasing, the machines, to keep the secret guts secret. Instead, it will charge by the kilowatt-hour delivered in the field—and a pittance, too, 8 to 45 cents per kWh. Oil-field operations can easily pay the equivalent of $1 per kWh for diesel.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; energy; freeenergy; hydrocarbons; maga; nikolatesla; ohsomysteriouso; opec; perpetualmotion
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Even though it’s a fraud the article is well written and entertaining.

I notice this:

“Some have had their faith in classical physics shaken. Tim Tight, a tech adviser in the Bay Area with a master’s in engineering and an M.B.A., both from Stanford, visited IEC in April, after hearing about the Earth Engine for more than a year. “It sounded too good to be true,” he said. He returned from his visit a believer and began reaching out to friends and former classmates at Stanford, looking for a Ph.D. physicist to explain “why the machine…isn’t violating the laws of thermodynamics.””

I would not take this guys opinion seriously considering he apparently does understand the difference between electrodynamics and thermodynamics.


61 posted on 05/17/2019 2:32:26 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sparklite2

Yes. I guess an electron is a monopole.


62 posted on 05/17/2019 2:33:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: DUMBGRUNT

As an engineer debunks these things I’ve heard about these for years yes they are real but fly wheels are huge pain in the butt and very big and dangerous

That’s the major drawback of these things

I’m a hydrogen guy from way back which is just starting to happen and I’m really just putting in solar panels most of the time because they work like the dickens


63 posted on 05/17/2019 3:08:32 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: sparklite2

A fridge with a Bayliss generator?


64 posted on 05/17/2019 3:28:47 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: kaktuskid

Not me. I always insist there be a Bay in my generator.
If it’s Bayliss, I’m sending it back.


65 posted on 05/17/2019 3:36:39 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“’the resulting center shaft torque produced from angular momentum derived from the force of paired magnetic fields.””

that sounds exactly like an ordinary electric motor to me ...


66 posted on 05/17/2019 3:46:15 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

i can’t believe the WSJ fell for this bullshit.

magnetic perpetual motion machine scams have been around for a very long time;

https://www.google.com/search?q=magnet+motor+scam


67 posted on 05/17/2019 3:48:31 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

that sounds exactly like an ordinary electric motor to me ...

I too, view it as similar to an AC induction motor.

Using large magnets in the stator and rotor.
The stator is not fixed but moves to optimize attraction and opposition.

The motive force is the magnets until they wear out in 3-4 years.


68 posted on 05/17/2019 4:36:07 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Bonemaker

Quotable: He has pulled the wrong tooth! There’s only one man who would pull the wrong tooth. It’s Clouseau! Kill him! Kill him! [while laughing from the effects of laughing gas]

Right up there with “I thought you said your dog does not bite” and...

Woman: That was a priceless Steinweigh.
Clouseau: Not any more.

Brings back fond memories. I think I actually have “Pink Panther Strikes Again” buried somewhere in my old movie collection.


69 posted on 05/17/2019 4:43:18 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: unlearner
Eternallly love the Clouseau series!😃
70 posted on 05/17/2019 4:46:29 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: catnipman

I love this stuff. There was a guy who supposedly perfected an engine that was based on a WWII German engine. He named the Engine the “ Mity Mite. It was supposed to produce 1200 hp out of a suit case size engine. The crank shaft was about an inch and half in diameter. I almost feel out of my chair laughing. Then there was another magnet guy who had this “engine” that worked by aligning elections in such a way to produce “free “ energy. Both these guys needed “investors “, big investors to “develop “ their inventions! Seems those devices are still waiting for the investors.


71 posted on 05/17/2019 5:08:45 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Red Badger

Buy one. Tell us how (it doesnt) work for you.


72 posted on 05/17/2019 6:17:07 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Truthoverpower

“yes they are real”

They are not real.


73 posted on 05/17/2019 6:21:10 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: fuzzylogic

A magnet with a crystal and you got something big!


74 posted on 05/17/2019 11:41:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Bobalu

The Brits invented Cavorite. Known fact......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Men_in_the_Moon_(1964_film) er... documentary

In 1899, Arnold Bedford and his fiancée Katherine Callender – known as Kate – meet an inventor, Joseph Cavor, who has invented Cavorite, a substance that will let anything it is applied to or made of deflect the force of gravity and which he plans to use to travel to the Moon. Cavor has already built a spherical spaceship for this purpose, taking Arnold and (accidentally) Kate with him. While exploring the Moon, Bedford and Cavor fall down a vertical shaft and discover to their amazement an insectoid population, the Selenites, living beneath the surface.


75 posted on 05/17/2019 11:48:48 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

The corrected link for the ‘documentary’.
Twelve minutes, and a surprising number of leggy young ladies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLZntSdyKE

Can they use the EARTH MOTOR to power a Tesla rocket?


76 posted on 05/18/2019 6:24:11 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Red Badger

TANSTAAFL..............

In my unconsidered opinion, in a field that I know nothing.

I BELEIVE IT WORKS. See #68 and the link that you posted.

No laws of the physical world are defied.

The laws of economics will determine the fate of the Earth motor.

Yes, the free lunch problem.
Does the output exceed the cost of production in dollars?

It weights thousands of pounds and only runs for three or four years?

Also a bit heavy to install in the backseat of a Tesla.

For me, I sticking with my plan to massively scale up my ‘drinking bird’ generator. Much simpler than the Earth Motor. Also looking ahead to a convocation of drinking birds to be mounted on the roof of Teslas everywhere.
I can send a prospectus if you are interested?


77 posted on 05/18/2019 6:54:50 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Another “miracle magnet-based over-unity-claimed investor-dollar-grabbing machine”.


78 posted on 05/18/2019 8:10:31 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Oh - and a Maxwell’s Equations “homo-polar” (single pole magnet) violation.


79 posted on 05/18/2019 8:12:04 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Meanwhile, the actual, validated work by Dr. Randell L. Mills & company goes overlooked.

Quick intro - skips a LOT of history and the validation work done in the past decade and more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn5kGDibj98

“Product History Randell Mills and The Search for Hydrino Energy; Brett Holverstott”

A whirlwind tour of the theory at a deeper level, including skeptical disclaimers -

Note: Lecture begins at timestamp 04:30

http://webcast.massey.ac.nz/Mediasite/Play/8ef7e03e26fc458b8eb7f351738f26811d


80 posted on 05/18/2019 8:18:01 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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