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SICKENING: Ocasio-Cortez Under Heavy Fire Over ‘Disturbing’ Tweet About Abortion
I love my freedom ^ | 09-05-19 | Martin

Posted on 05/10/2019 3:40:06 AM PDT by Monrose72

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is in hot water this week over a “disturbing” tweet that she sent about abortion. In response to Georgia Republican Gov. Brian Kemp signing legislation known as the “heartbeat bill,” which bans abortions in the state when the unborn child’s heartbeat can be detected, Ocasio-Cortez proved she knows absolutely nothing with her response. “‘6 weeks pregnant’ = 2 weeks late on your period. Most of the men writing these bills don’t know the first thing about a woman’s body outside of the things they want from it. It’s relatively common for a woman to have a late period + not be pregnant. So this is a backdoor ban,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; alabama; aoc; berniesanders; briankemp; georgia; infanticide; medicareforall; newyork; obamacare; ocasiocortez; prollife; vermont
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To: Monrose72

Welp.

We knew she didn’t know her math....


21 posted on 05/10/2019 5:10:45 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I was regular, too.

My children were born on the 24th, 24th and 25th. The one on the 25th....delivered him 30 minutes after getting to the hospital. Apparently he just overslept.

22 posted on 05/10/2019 5:13:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The baby’s heart starts beating at 6 weeks......Abortion of a 6 week baby in utero is ........murder

It doesn’t matter whether your wife or any other woman was regular or irregular in her teens


23 posted on 05/10/2019 5:13:47 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: usconservative

Beat me too.


24 posted on 05/10/2019 5:23:22 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: Monrose72; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
And where does the bill state this? It does not, but "Reproductive rights groups say the bills amount to a ban on abortion at about six weeks’ gestation. That’s when a doctor can detect “a flicker of cardiac motion” on a transvaginal ultrasound, according to Dr. Catherine Romanos, a doctor who performs abortions in Ohio and a fellow with the group Physicians for Reproductive Health." - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/19/18412384/georgia-abortion-heartbeat-bill-ohio-2019-iowa

But,

A fetal heartbeat may first be detected by a vaginal ultrasound as early as 5 1/2 to 6 weeks after gestation. That’s when a fetal pole, the first visible sign of a developing embryo, can sometimes be seen. But between 6 1/2 to 7 weeks after gestation, a heartbeat can be better assessed. That’s when your doctor may schedule your first abdominal or vaginal ultrasound to check for signs of a healthy, developing pregnancy. - https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/when-can-you-hear-babys-heartbeat

25 posted on 05/10/2019 6:00:42 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Why would 6 weeks be "awfully early" is human beings as such are really important?

I come from a apart of the country where early frosts sometimes wipe out the cherries when the trees are just in the blossom stage. Freezes in April and May 2012 wiped out nearly the entire local cherry crop.

The orchardists don't say, "Oh, no biggie. The cherries were just starting to form, so there's no loss really."

No, they're realists. They say, "Damn, we're ruined. We just lost a $2 million cherry crop." Bottom line: if something is valuable, it is valuable at every stage in it development.

Even moreso if something is not just valuable, but sacred.

If human rights exist *at all*, they must exist at every age and every stage.

26 posted on 05/10/2019 6:47:56 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Most people wouldn't abort their dog. If people knew "the first thing" about a woman's body, they wouldn't tolerate such a barbaric and degrading thing as abortion being done to a woman.

A slogan I saw: "Abortions will cease when women refuse to submit."

27 posted on 05/10/2019 6:50:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: RansomOttawa

After Kobe Bryant was caught for the nth time cheating on his wife, Kobe changed his ways.

Kobe purchased a HUGE ring for his wife.
Then, Kobe swore off cheating via regular sexual relations and was exclusive “backdoor”.
I am told this was named the “Kobe Way”


28 posted on 05/10/2019 7:30:03 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Monrose72

29 posted on 05/10/2019 7:37:23 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Liz

I wonder if the long list of Democrats campaigning for president have devised a scheme to pocket campaign money? I have suspected the attraction of such money has drawn in so many Democrats who want to make a fortune off the donations from the American electorate.


30 posted on 05/10/2019 7:51:56 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: exDemMom
I absolutely think that the scientific evidence of the humanity of the baby should be considered when making laws about abortion.

In that case, there is no abortion because all unions of a human egg and human sperm result in a human being.

31 posted on 05/10/2019 11:46:33 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: exDemMom; Sacajaweau
Do not misunderstand—I think the Georgia bill is a good one. I absolutely think that the scientific evidence of the humanity of the baby should be considered when making laws about abortion. When the baby is developed enough to have a nervous system (and can, therefore, feel), birth control abortion *should* be banned. The heartbeat is a good approximation for this milestone, as it starts around the same time frame.

In truth the humanity of the unborn child is there from the first moment after fertilization occurs - separate and unique DNA of the human life comes into existence. The embryo/zygote begins to develop and if left undisturbed will result in the birth of that human - all that is needed is nutrition and time in the safety of the mother's womb. That life never is anything BUT a human life.

I think the ultimate goal of this legislation is to bring before the U.S. Supreme Court (especially with the Conservative edge now) a chance to readdress the Roe v. Wade decision in the light of what we ALL know now with the advancement of neonatology/embryology. The pro-abortion Supremes of 1972 left the question of the humanity of the unborn off the table claiming it was not established when it becomes a human life. Today, it is no longer an unknown - and it really wasn't back then either, they were just too timid to acknowledge it. The good news is that other states are also proceeding along the same lines and combined they must be addressed by the SCOTUS to settle the matter. I pray that they will have the strength of character this time to rule justly.

32 posted on 05/10/2019 12:04:20 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Monrose72

It’s relatively common for a woman to have a late period + not be pregnant.

AOC, this isn’t a problem, if she is just late there
won’t be a heart beat... If there IS a heartbeat then
she is pregnant and going to have a BABY.


33 posted on 05/10/2019 12:07:49 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Liz

34 posted on 05/10/2019 12:19:06 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Monrose72

Back in my college days, my professor taught that Roe v Wade broke pregnancy up into trimesters.

1st Trimester - No state could limit first trimester abortions.

2nd Trimester - States could limit abortions.

3rd Trimester - Abortion only allowed if the life of the mother was at risk.

The 3rd trimester ban got watered down with subsequent rulings that the stretched the exclusions to “life or health” of the mother and further stretched “health” to include “mental health” which basically allowed third trimesters since any woman can claim mental distress.

Since the third trimester ban was diluted over time, is this law the beginnings of diluting the ‘”freedom” in the first trimester and will the Supreme Court allow it?


35 posted on 05/10/2019 12:34:06 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If human rights exist *at all*, they must exist at every age and every stage.

AMEN! The only difference between a human embryo and a fully formed human baby is time and nutrients. Every single one of us began as a fertilized egg (when the mother's ripe ovum was united with the father's sperm). ALL the DNA that differentiates us as unique individuals was present at that first moment. Ending that life AT ANY STAGE is killing the unique, never-been-before nor ever-will-exist-again, HUMAN being. Even having exceptions for rape or incest is ignoring that fact. The whole Roe vs. Wade decision was predicated on that exception and devolved into where we are today with abortion for ANY reason at any time including even now if the child survives her/his abortion attempt. Abortion should be unthinkable!

36 posted on 05/10/2019 1:07:29 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
So, while I am against late term abortion (say after 4 to 5 months), I think 6 weeks is awful early.

I'm curious why you draw the line between the first trimester and the second/third? If a human being exists - which it does from the embryo stage to birth - then isn't it killing a human life regardless of fetal age?

37 posted on 05/10/2019 1:25:34 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I don’t follow your reasoning.

If approaching abortion as a termination of potential for human life to begin, then the bill would be identifying the point of when human life is identified in the baby while in the womb. Then killing the living person would be murder.

If approaching abortion as simply an economic decision of the mother, to give her a grace period of when to commit to accepting the life inside her, then this begs the question of when life begins.

Other points of view remain, such as the Alabama Rep (D) John Rogers who last week stated, “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or kill them later,” a perspective which seems to accept murder as an acceptable option, and even if the life is identified during pregnancy, he still accepts the murder as justifiable.

With the arguments of Planned Parenthood, their behavior at their own group meetings/seminars, they apparently fully comprehend they are murdering people and simple lie in their arguments so as not to be held accountable for criminal activity.

The longer abortion is condoned by the nation, those actually engaged in it become lax in their mendacity, manifesting their corrupt thinking.

I favor keeping the medical conditions used in identifying life and death to also be used on the baby in the womb. Otherwise, if we are in an accident, taken into a democrat organized socialized medicine emergency room, those conscious would be allowed to kill you while you are unconscious and send your parts out for market prices.


38 posted on 05/10/2019 1:29:13 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The criterion should be species. Is there a human genome? If so, no abortion. That's the only way you can get "equal justice under law" for humans. You could still abort your dog. But most people wouldn't, because (ironically) that would be inhumane.

Ironic isn't it that a person can be prosecuted for disturbing an endangered species' offspring (like a condor's nest) but there's no problem with the butchering of an unborn human baby?

39 posted on 05/10/2019 1:32:28 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: grania
I'm pro-life, totally. But I wonder about these extreme bills. Are we being set up for failure, so "our" pols can campaign on supporting the bill but know it will be over-turned? That could open the door to horrific bills like the one in NY which allows the slaughter of live infants. Because of that, I'd rather see a first trimester bill, with "rape and incest" exceptions having to be within that time.

That "rape and incest" exception was how we got to where we are today with abortion on demand at any time for any or no reason (see the Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton SCOTUS decisions). If the circumstances of the conception can justify ending the nascent human life, then there can be no intrinsic value of that life. His or her worth becomes dependent upon someone else's decision (the mother's "choice").

40 posted on 05/10/2019 1:44:10 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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