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Man flushes grandparents' ashes down a toilet after fight with mother over marijuana use
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/30/19 | John Gage

Posted on 05/04/2019 11:14:32 AM PDT by Libloather

A Pennsylvania man is facing criminal charges after flushing his grandparents' ashes down the toilet.

Thomas Porter Wells, 33, allegedly did the deed after his mother kicked him out of her house because of his drinking habit and marijuana use.

Wells texted his mother later, saying "and soon as you die you'll be going in the same spot where you belong down the (expletive) you (expletive)."

**SNIP**

Wells faces two counts of abuse of a corpse and criminal mischief.

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To: Responsibility2nd

I am glad cremation is mostly forbidden in my religion. But to each his own.


81 posted on 05/04/2019 10:09:03 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Sacajaweau

This is the problem. The crematory should have a place to dispose of them. Most people don’t want them.
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I don’t know this for certain, but I believe most funeral homes and crematories offer to dispose of cremated remains if no family members or others request to have them.


82 posted on 05/05/2019 6:28:53 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Civilization is held together by the hangman's noose.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I can tell you....they do not. I have a contract with one.


83 posted on 05/05/2019 6:39:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: HollyB

I feel bad for their mother. She has no control in her own home. She may have to have the cops escort them off the property.
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I know a man who’s son is psychotic, and when he was released from prison he returned home and beat up his father who is 78 years old. Others advised the father to get a restraining order, but I don’t think he did it.


84 posted on 05/05/2019 6:40:22 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Civilization is held together by the hangman's noose.)
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To: Califreak

You’ve expressed my intentions also. And I’ve pre-paid the event.


85 posted on 05/05/2019 6:42:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Redwood71

Yeh, right....Notify the EPA.


86 posted on 05/05/2019 6:45:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: HollyB

But, as for me. I never want to go in the ground or in a mausoleum as my mom has in place. Graves/cemeteries, etc give me the creeps. Hardly anyone goes to visit, so they are lonely places. As I’ve grown older, I feel cremation is a much more dignified way to deal with the remains, imo.
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There’s another alternative. A woman in Sweden invented a process for freeze-drying a corpse in liquid nitrogen. After the freezing, the body is placed in a shaker machine and disintegrated into a thousand pieces. The pieces are placed in another machine which extracts all liquid leaving only a dried, oatmeal-like substance. This substance is placed in a biodegradable container which next-of-kin can then use as a sort of fertilizer for the planting of a memorial bush or tree. Nice alternative for those who don’t like the thought of being burned, or rotting in the ground, or being devoured by insects.


87 posted on 05/05/2019 6:50:59 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Civilization is held together by the hangman's noose.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Hey, I don’t make the laws, and she turned him in, I didn’t. But there were some on the thread that were questioning if it was unlawful. Turns out in that state, yes. But unless it was done to harm people like pouring poison down the toilet, it will probably cost him a fine and not a jail term. But starting at $5K can be a bad choice of lessons to learn. That’s a lot of grass and booze he will be giving up. Might be good for him.

rwood


88 posted on 05/05/2019 9:13:25 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: trisham
I couldn’t wait to leave home when I turned 18. I don’t get someone wanting to stay dependent on their parents.

You dated yourself trisham. Back in our day, it was pretty much a given that when you turned 18, you were an adult, and ready to take on being an adult.

I got along great with my mom and stepdad, and a scholarship afforded me the opportunity to go away to college. From that point on, 4 days at home was enough, I was always ready to return to school and my independent life.

Within months after graduation, I was a platoon leader in Germany, responsible for 20 men before I turned 23. At 25, I was the supply officer for a 600 man air defense artillery battalion.

My sister also moved out of the house after she graduated from high school. Our stepdad helped her settle into her own apartment, and she took on a clerical job, she never planned on going to college.

On my 18th birthday, my stepfather told me I could get a beer anytime I wanted, though the drinking age was 21. He grew up during the Depression, served in WWII. I never did that with my kids, different time, and they weren't ready for that (and Mom never broached the idea).

89 posted on 05/05/2019 9:26:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I hear you. Those really were the “good old days”. :)


90 posted on 05/05/2019 9:33:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
They really were the good old days for me. I was able to experience so much during my 4 years in Germany, I never needed to put together a bucket list. Oh, there are some things I'd still like to do, but I don't wring my hands over it.

My daughter knows if and when Alzheimers afflicts me, because I told her: it's when all I talk about is the Summer of '79. I was 25, on a temporary duty assignment in Northern Germany for 3 months. Made a ton of friends there, we were the only Americans for 200 miles. One of the best summers of my life.

My mom was like that when that dreaded disease struck her. She was living back in 1944, when it was actually 2010. Scared the hell out of me when I put the pieces together.

91 posted on 05/05/2019 9:43:37 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Germany is a beautiful country. These days I’m happy to be at home, but memories of past travels are always welcome. :)


92 posted on 05/05/2019 9:47:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Interesting indeed. Sounds expensive.


93 posted on 05/05/2019 9:49:17 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: trisham
Just don't wax too eloquently about past travels, your kids may put you in a home...lol. Feel free to PM me if you feel the need, least I can do for you...lol.

Pardon my gallows humor.

94 posted on 05/05/2019 9:51:16 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not

You sound a few years younger than I am by the info about the drinking age. Most of the kids I knew moved out at 18 when they went to college. The others stayed home for a few extra years saving some money while working. I’d say the rest moved out around

Although the drinking age is now 21. I allowed my son to have a drink at family gatherings when he was younger than 21. First, it’s legal for a kid to drink at home while the parent is home supervising. Next, I found it important for him to know how to drink in a social manner before he did away from me. Most kids just go off with friends when first drinking and act idiotically. Because his first experiences were never in an environment of sneaking off and being rebellious- he doesn’t act like an idiot when he drinks. This was never about being a ‘cool mom’, but another lever of teaching on a social level.


95 posted on 05/05/2019 10:05:00 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Night Hides Not

You bet. Thanks. :)


96 posted on 05/05/2019 10:12:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Clutch Martin

This sort of reminds me of a situation when my father passed away. 2 young girls had both passed away around the same time and we’re at a local funeral home. The funeral home sent the wrong girl off for cremation. How sad is that?

So, without even discussing it with the woman at the funeral home where my father was at, she told us she personally watched them take my father. So, we’d have no doubt about his remains. But, after reading your comment, it makes me wonder what takes place at the crematorium.


97 posted on 05/05/2019 10:15:07 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

That’s awful. I can’t imagine what they went thru. Not just on a physical level, but to think the child you loved and raised turned out to be a monster.


98 posted on 05/05/2019 10:20:44 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Califreak

You sound like my father. We did have a memorial service even tho he said he didn’t want anything. Soo many people showed up. It turned out pretty amazing. I’d like to think my father was pleased after all knowing so many cared - and how good it was to see friends and family again.


99 posted on 05/05/2019 7:29:35 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Responsibility2nd

It seems that the burials indicted were based on custom. There is nothing that states cremation is wrong. I’ll continue to research the topic tho.


100 posted on 05/05/2019 7:33:54 PM PDT by HollyB
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