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I was reading the post above about NYT publication of Trump’s tax information.

I agree with the author completely: “has no more right to Trump’s tax returns than it has to mine or those of any of you reading these words”

I’m hoping this will be the beginning of an opportunity for Trump to eliminate the IRS and the income tax. Probably a long term goal, but I believe this could be setting the stage for that.

I have long been an advocate of abolishing the income tax and the IRS. I hate paying taxes, but that is the least of my reasons.

#1 on my list is that the IRS is an invasion of privacy. It is none of the government’s dam# business where I work or how much money I make. If you think it is, it’s probably because you have been conditioned to accept that all of your life. As far as i can tell, nothing in the Constitution says that the government has any right to know much of anything about you. Aside from being counted in the census, but I don’t think that requires much invasive information. (FReeQs correct me if I’m wrong here.)

2. The IRS can be (and has been) used as a political weapon, as a means of intimidation.

3. The IRS can completely ruin a person’s life. They have vast powers to confiscate assets and you are guilty until proven innocent. This alone seems to violate every principle of a free country.

4. The complexity of tax law creates a huge burden of time and stress on the middle class. The poor don’t have to deal with this (and may even get a “rebate” on taxes they didn’t pay). The rich can afford to pay someone else to deal with it.

5. Tax laws are specifically designed to stick it to the middle class and/or conservatives. Despite DS/leftwing blather about taxing the rich, it doesn’t really happen unless the rich are hardworking conservatives. Think about it this way - If you are a do-nothing politician, swanning around the world and vacationing at taxpayer expense, staying in the finest hotels, dining in the best restaurants, who gets handed a million bucks (or more) of taxpayer money in bribes/corruption/fake income, you would either have that income hidden under the table or if it were overt (like book deals, do-nothing jobs for your spouse (Mooch), sitting on various boards, speaking fees, etc.) you’d have no problem giving back half or even more. I’ll bet any of you reading this, if you were offered a deal to be handed a million bucks a year with the stipulation that you had to give back half, would be delighted to take the deal. The only problem is that a deal like that with the DS comes with evil strings attached.

6. Income tax penalizes work. Work should be rewarded, not penalized.

7. Income tax penalizes honest people. The criminals lie and avoid the tax.

8. Income tax penalizes citizens. Illegals pay no income tax. Visitors (legal) pay no income tax.

I don’t know what the best solution is, but it is definitely NOT income tax. Of all the options I’ve considered, I think a consumption tax is the most reasonable and the most fair. Everyone who buys anything pays it, whether you’re rich or poor, citizen, visitor, illegal. It doesn’t invade your privacy. So long as the government doesn’t start messing around with creating exemptions for things, it would be hard to use as a weapon. The burden of paperwork would fall on businesses which already have to keep records, so I expect it would not be a great additional burden.


1,616 posted on 05/09/2019 7:50:44 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

Your post #1616 about taxes:

Spot on and thank you. I’m a little slow at figuring SOME things out, but it dawned on me about 20 years ago that the regular workin’ dude and dudette get pinched by taxation. And because of that the tax code is the greatest impediment for middle-incomers to becoming ‘wealthy.’

I’ve heard Rush echo the same thing in the past couple of years.


1,630 posted on 05/09/2019 8:57:31 AM PDT by EMI_Guy ("You have to slow down to go fast." - Kenny Roberts)
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To: generally
...I’m hoping this will be the beginning of an opportunity for Trump to eliminate the IRS and the income tax. Probably a long term goal, but I believe this could be setting the stage for that.

I have long been an advocate of abolishing the income tax and the IRS. I hate paying taxes, but that is the least of my reasons....

I agree with all your points on abolishing the IRS and the income tax, in your post. I also believe they are gearing towards this as well. Especially if we kick out the foreign central bankers and set up our own monetary system backed by gold. The Q team has already hinted at this.

Once the massive debt creating ways of these central banks are gone, the governments will have to live more within its means. There will no longer be a need for the progressive income tax or the IRS to try to keep up with this monstrosity. I also agree a reasonable consumption tax would be much more fair.

CGato

1,647 posted on 05/09/2019 10:00:03 AM PDT by Conservative Gato (Now there are 4 kind of lies... Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics and the Media)
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To: generally

RE: Abolish income tax & IRS...

Oh I forgot to add, if we do go the consumption tax route, I would like to see it applied at the wholesale level so that the tax is priced in before it gets to retailers. That way small retail business owners are not hampered with being the governments tax collectors for free. That would allow a much smaller civil tax enforcement agency getting in the way of most American small business owners getting down to business.

If this President can get the things done you mentioned, watch this economy take off like we’ve never seen before. I really am excited for this country and the opportunities that will open up for Family and FRiends if we can get these things accomplished.

MAGA!

CGato


1,653 posted on 05/09/2019 10:19:05 AM PDT by Conservative Gato (Now there are 4 kind of lies... Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics and the Media)
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