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The Flying Boats (Documentary on aviation history)
YouTube ^ | 05-19-2017 | Spark

Posted on 04/03/2019 3:20:48 PM PDT by NRx

A documentary on the history of the great flying boats in the early years of passenger air travel including the famed Pan Am Clippers.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...


TOPICS: History; Travel
KEYWORDS: aviation; boeing; godsgravesglyphs; history; panam; panamclippers
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To: Flick Lives

If by chance you’re a gear head?
Here are the maintenance manuals fully readable.

I wondered about them servicing the engines on the water in the middle of nowhere.

https://aviationshoppe.com/pw-r1830-twin-wasp-documents-manuals-a-73.html


21 posted on 04/03/2019 6:55:05 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: mabarker1

IIRC the engines could burn just about any type of Fuel. Kinda like a Tank did.

??? Maybe not???

At Surabaya, Captain Ford had to refuel with automobile grade gasoline, instead of their usual 100 octane. “We took off from Surabaya on the 100 octane, climbed a couple of thousand feet, and pulled back the power to cool off the engines,” said Ford. “Then we switched to the automobile gas and held our breaths. The engines almost jumped out of their mounts, but they ran. We figured it was either that or leave the airplane to the Japs.”

This was the first time ever that engine was not run on avgas.
See link in #4 for the full story.
A great read.


22 posted on 04/03/2019 7:04:05 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I don't think that's the fault of Pan Am.

As I recall, back in the dark days of the CAB, international carriers were not allowed to have domestic routes.

You needed to transfer from, let's say, Eastern to Pan Am or TWA at Idlewild/JFK if you wanted to fly to Europe. No through routes except maybe charters, but only with permission.

Quite possibly, this route regulation scheme was a result of domestic competition doing some heavy-duty lobbying.

Thanks to deregulation, we can now fly on the same plane from sea to shining sea and land on the ground.

23 posted on 04/03/2019 7:08:30 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Me thinks that was a US Govt. restriction on Pan Am for domestic air routes . Pan Am could not fly to Australia only as far as NZ. because of such restrictions nor to China , only as far as Guam & Manila.

An entertaining movie is 1936 “China Clipper” with Pat O'Brien. & Bogart, A Hollywood version of the Pan Am story... lots of artistic license though.

24 posted on 04/03/2019 7:17:48 PM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Great article! Thanks for posting.


25 posted on 04/03/2019 7:53:19 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: NRx

The Smithsonian Air & Space used to have a section of cabin from a Clipper, arranged as if it was meal service time. Passengers ate on china dishes with real metal flatware. Food probably sidn’t suck, too,


26 posted on 04/03/2019 8:12:06 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I read that account several years ago, It’s a must read for everyone. The crew of Pan Am 18602 were heroes.


27 posted on 04/03/2019 8:51:05 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: NRx

With the exception of a couple of PBY’ s , I don’t think any of these magnificent aircraft are around anymore.


28 posted on 04/03/2019 9:00:03 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: DUMBGRUNT
That's grounds for a topic in its own right!

29 posted on 04/03/2019 9:08:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
An odd ping to a modern history topic, but I think you'll enjoy it.
The Flying Boats | Speed Machines | Spark

The Flying Boats | Speed Machines | Spark

30 posted on 04/03/2019 9:10:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: NRx

What killed flying boats was that it was just too hard to keep the sails out of the propellers when tacking up wind.


31 posted on 04/03/2019 11:03:56 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: urtax$@work

I looked this up and you’re correct.
Still, Trippe and his pals could have lobbied for the right to go cross country.

We flew Pan Am from Tokyo to SFCA way way back.
I had a neat blue carry on bag with the Pan Am logo for years until it self destructed.


32 posted on 04/04/2019 4:32:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s grounds for a topic in its own right!

Repost it if you like, many have yet to see it.

My memory ain’t what it used to be...

And IIRC, I learned of it here on FR some time back??

site search found it:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3739568/posts


33 posted on 04/04/2019 7:44:15 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: SunkenCiv

Wrong link.

Would you believe?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3654596/posts

There are many dangers in using two monitors.
This is just one of them.


34 posted on 04/04/2019 7:49:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: NRx

There are huge numbers of aviation-related videos and documentaries on YouTube. Watch one, and the YT bot will suggest a bunch more.


35 posted on 04/04/2019 7:53:16 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: NRx
One of my favorite shows that didn't last ...


36 posted on 04/04/2019 8:07:19 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: Fresh Wind

> Watch one, and the YT bot will suggest a bunch more.

One of the best things about Y.T. - it’s AI comes up with all sorts of really great suggestions.


37 posted on 04/04/2019 10:33:32 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
:^) I've got three, but as I've aged along with this setup, I think I might prefer to have one really large one and run the browsers each in a separate VM window.

38 posted on 04/04/2019 12:44:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
In its day, the Pan Am Clippers were state of the art technology and were luxurious.

Amazing how fast that changed after WWII. Then, 15 years after the War, the jet age of passenger travel began. Those old ships were sure beauties, though.

39 posted on 04/04/2019 4:53:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Nailbiter

ping


40 posted on 04/06/2019 3:48:10 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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