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"For all the people who fell asleep in civics class...

1: There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 2,626 of them. Clinton won 487. 2: There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16. 3: Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes. 4: In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond) Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country. 5: These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. 6: When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election. Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of the country. And this children, is WHY you have a Electoral College. It's a safety net so that EVERYONES vote counts."

1 posted on 04/02/2019 10:27:01 AM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

Full Title: You’ll hear these 4 arguments in defense of the Electoral College. Here’s why they’re wrong


2 posted on 04/02/2019 10:27:53 AM PDT by Beave Meister (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli....)
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To: Beave Meister
He missed "serves as a firewall to limit the effects of election corruption within a state to that state only."

Right now, whether or not Democrats cheat in New York or California is less relevant because they'd win those states anyway. But as soon as you get rid of the EC, you've created a huge incentive for ballot-stuffing in states that are controlled top to bottom by a single party.

3 posted on 04/02/2019 10:37:27 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Beave Meister
The Constitution’s framers originally created the Electoral College as a way to filter the “passions” of the people through state-appointed presidential electors with better judgment.

Where did the author come up with this idea?

The Electoral College was never about subduing the "passions" of the people, because the people were never going to directly elect the President.

The President was to be the executive of the federation of states, therefore the states were to choose the President.

The states were to be the governing bodies of the people, therefore the people were to choose their governors and state legislatures.

-PJ

5 posted on 04/02/2019 10:40:33 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Beave Meister
Their list:
1. Electors filter the passions of the people (faithless electors have never changed an outcome, so therefore they're useless? SMH)
2. It forces candidates to campaign in rural areas (Wisconsin, Hillary? Would you like to have visited now, maybe?)
3. It prohibits a couple of states or cities from picking the winner (see Post 1)
4. It prevents the chaos of a contested election (Odd, even with close results like 1916 (3.1%), 1960 (0.2%), 2004 (0.5%)... and even upside-down results like 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016... we have not had "chaos", despite the Democrat's fervent efforts to create some lately. That's including 7 of the last 35 cycles... 1 out of every 5 has been "chaos"? Really?)

And their solution, by massive coincidence, is the National Popular Vote Compact.

Poor Dems can't seem to get their illegals voting in the correct places t the correct times, so they just want to erase that location requirement altogether.

6 posted on 04/02/2019 10:42:59 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Beave Meister

That’s exactly right.

I don’t know why all these states’ legislators or governors are going all out to dissolve the electoral college. If they do, then their state (through its counties) will have absolutely no say against the large and easily manipulated populations of a few coastal cities which are mostly counties themselves.


7 posted on 04/02/2019 10:47:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: Beave Meister
This might refute Point #3 even more clearly...


9 posted on 04/02/2019 10:48:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Beave Meister

Beave Meister who writes for some newspaper is a lot smarter than our nation’s founding fathers.

If only they had had his wisdom to consult with, the Constitution could have been much better. /s


10 posted on 04/02/2019 10:51:20 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: Beave Meister

Three Nationality Harris is not a natural born citizen.

Natural born citizens are NATURALLY citizens because they only have ONE nationality.


11 posted on 04/02/2019 10:52:40 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Beave Meister

The most pernicious thing to hit the law books is the National Popular Vote Bill, recently passed here in Colorado. If 100 percent of Coloradans vote for one candidate but the other candidate wins the overall national vote, all of Colorado’s electoral votes go to a candidate no one in Colorado voted for, hence disenfranchising every flipping voter in the state. Any Colorado legislator who voted for this bill will never, ever get my vote again.


12 posted on 04/02/2019 10:52:54 AM PDT by Hootowl
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To: Beave Meister

Small states entered the Union under an agreement that allowed them a disproportionate amount of influence in the Senate, which is a part of the Electoral College scenario. If the rules are now changed, this violates the original agreement, and they should be allowed to leave the Union if they wish. If the Popular Vote issue becomes a reality, I could see about 30 states wanting to leave the Union.


13 posted on 04/02/2019 11:24:47 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Beave Meister
statemap512

The Blue states can control who'd be president if the EC was eliminated.

14 posted on 04/02/2019 11:51:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Beave Meister
For all those people that always want to follow the popular voye:


15 posted on 04/02/2019 11:56:27 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Beave Meister

“Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren recently called for the abolition of the Electoral College, while other Democratic presidential candidates, including former U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke and Sen. Kamala Harris, have said the Electoral College should be re-evaluated.”

What do I care about what a Fake indian, a fake Mexican and a fake American think?


22 posted on 04/02/2019 3:40:44 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Beave Meister

It may make sense to award a State’s electoral votes proportionally to the percentage of the popular vote won by the candidate in that State. For example if the Repub wins 40% of the votes in California he get 40% of the electors. That would help erase the huge advantage the RATS have in electors before a vote is even cast.


23 posted on 04/02/2019 4:12:34 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Beave Meister

True...


26 posted on 04/03/2019 7:01:57 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (WFLA's Jack Harris: Brooklyn is missing their village idiot. Right you are, Jack.)
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