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Jack the Ripper's identity may finally be known, thanks to DNA
www.nbcnews.com ^ | March 18, 2019, 3:17 PM CDT | By Farnoush Amiri

Posted on 03/19/2019 6:50:39 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Qiviut

“A family member, by marriage, just found her birth mom year before last via DNA”

My grandmother who was born in 1889, was adopted. Last year I had my 96-year-old mother take an Ancestry DNA test. Within a matter of weeks, I was able to identify both of my grandmother’s biological parents based on several of my mother’s 2nd cousin matches.

A 139-year-old mystery was solved thru modern technology. The icing on the cake was that relatives of the two biological parents had posted their pictures on Ancestry and findagrave.com.


81 posted on 03/19/2019 9:09:23 AM PDT by euram
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To: Flaming Conservative

This happened so long ago, it is just a historical mystery, though it may be gory in its details, the overall picture is now just a debatable exercise.....................


82 posted on 03/19/2019 9:10:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

I find this fascinating. Here is a site of a man who did some research on the family of this supposed Ripper (ordering genealogical research & translations from Poland). https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-housekoz.html

He also has a forum which is discussing these recent developments.

https://forum.casebook.org/forum/ripper-discussions/suspects/kosminski-aaron/703351-kosminski-shawl-dna-published-as-peer-reviewed-paper-in-journal-of-forensic-sciences


83 posted on 03/19/2019 9:16:06 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: gcparent

I don’t care where I came from. The future is what matters. And eternity.

I know I came from Adam.


84 posted on 03/19/2019 9:16:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: fruser1

SON!!!!


85 posted on 03/19/2019 9:16:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Red Badger

Actually descendant(s) from his mother’s mother’s line.


86 posted on 03/19/2019 9:17:42 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: gcparent

...the mom’s are worrying about their husbands not their other kids.


I don’t believe that is true in this particular case. The husband was aware of this when he married her.


87 posted on 03/19/2019 9:18:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

I am talking generally not a specific instance.


88 posted on 03/19/2019 9:22:46 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: euram

Very cool! :-)


89 posted on 03/19/2019 9:23:51 AM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: gcparent

Thanks. I get that. It’s how I usually do it too. ;)


90 posted on 03/19/2019 9:28:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: yarddog
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_a_Killer:_Jack_the_Ripper%E2%80%94Case_Closed

Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper—Case Closed (ISBN 0-425-19273-3) is a 2002 nonfiction book by crime novelist Patricia Cornwell which presents the theory that Walter Sickert, a British painter, was the 19th-century serial killer known as Jack the Ripper. Jean Overton Fuller, in her 1990 book Sickert and the Ripper Crimes, had maintained that Sickert was Jack the Ripper. Prior to that, Stephen Knight, in his 1976 book Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, had maintained that Sickert had been forced to be an accomplice of the Ripper.

Guess they were wrong. Or perhaps Sickert was the accomplice of Kosminski. It would be interesting if this was investigated.

91 posted on 03/19/2019 9:31:38 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: LouieFisk
blue eyes are now more common than brown in England, the researchers note.

There's soon to be an explosion of brown eyes in England what with all the ME invaders.

92 posted on 03/19/2019 9:36:22 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Researchers tested blood and semen found on a shawl near the body of the killer's fourth victim
If these women were prostitutes, as purported, the blood and semen could've come from a customer, not necessarily the killer.

That was my first thought, as they all were just that. I still believe the book Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution nailed it - a successful Victorian Watergate coverup if you will.

I thought the title was presumptuous and read it with a skeptical eye. However, the chapter titled "All Roads Lead to Dorset Street" made me think. The author points out that in 1867, there 80,000 prostitutes out of three million in London (probably more in 1888), and out of all of them, the Ripper killed five who all lived less than 300 yards of each other. The fact that they were scattered about made people think they lived in the area they were murdered in.

Basically, four prostitutes got wind of a Royal Indiscretion, tried to blackmail the government, and got bumped off by a crew of three (he identifies all of 'em). The fifth was murdered by accident as she had the same name as one of the targets.

That book made more sense than any of the other "single guy did it" versions.

93 posted on 03/19/2019 9:37:34 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Mears
A movie could never do it justice, there's too much to the story. It truly needs a mini series to properly tell the whole thing. And the tremendous thing about it is:

the story is compelling from beginning to end = the lead up and preparations, the building prohect, the fair, the "guests", the murders, H. H. Holmes escape, the detective work, the hunt, his capture, the trial leading to his execution. Simply fascinating , Hollywood literally couldn't make up a story this good.

94 posted on 03/19/2019 9:44:36 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: 4yearlurker

Sounds like you are talking about Francis Tumblety. I don’t think it’s very likely he was the Ripper, knowing what we know about the psychology of serial killers nowadays. Tumblety was a homosexual, after all, and the Ripper killed exclusively female victims in typical sadistic sexual murders. Psychopaths generally pick victims based on their sexual preferences, so a male homosexual psychopath will pick male victims (like Jeffrey Dahmer, or John Wayne Gacy), while a male heterosexual psychopath picks female victims (like Ted Bundy).


95 posted on 03/19/2019 9:44:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: thirdgradeteacher

Test the stains in the Turin Shroud!


96 posted on 03/19/2019 9:47:29 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Larry Lucido

What’s the name of that movie? I’ve been wanting to see it again, and Beau hasn’t. It’s great fun...and scary!

Time and Again? Can’t remember!


97 posted on 03/19/2019 10:01:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: Flaming Conservative

Early this morning on ID channel, there were a couple shows (”Deadly Legacy”, 2018) on the John (the clown) Wayne Gacy murders. DNA solved one of the unidentified boys, James Haakenson, he’d killed and stashed in the attic. DNA eliminated another young man from the Gacy file but linked him to another bad guy who had already died.

There should be a push to get DNA testing done on all cold cases with samples. That said, it is wrong to used DNA from those who send in their spit to these ancestry places be analysed by LE without signed notarized legal consent.


98 posted on 03/19/2019 10:01:43 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

From what I’m reading the blood was from the prostitute, so not the killer’s. They tested the semen and like you said could have come from a customer. Agree. People back then didn’t wash their clothing often so the semen could have been deposited on the scarf weeks, months or years before her death.


99 posted on 03/19/2019 10:07:26 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Pretty much everything about Holmes’ murders was different from the Ripper though. He didn’t pick the same kind of victims, he lured them instead of stalking them, he killed them by different methods, he didn’t commit any of the Ripper’s signature sexual mutilations on his victims, and Holmes was careful to hide and dispose of the bodies while the Ripper posed the bodies and left them in the open to be found.

Serial killers can change over time, but they never change THAT much.


100 posted on 03/19/2019 10:28:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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