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Shooting in New Zealand has changed my mind about islam and its followers
News | 16 March 2019 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 03/16/2019 2:06:36 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Some Godless group of people plan and execute an operation to kill muslims in New Zealand. One of the main perps then livestreams it with a rant about guns, Trump, blah, blah, blah. The group involved should be tried, convicted and hanged and then everyone told to go home, settle down and get back to work and living.The reaction to that event is what triggered me.

So many muslims have been involved in violence against non-muslims all over the world in the past 19 years, I've lost count. A huge number of people have died at their hands. The major event 911 where muslims killed over 3,000 people here BECAUSE OF RELIGION, the killer couple in California, the pair of guys who tried to shoot up the event about drawing caricatures of mohammed, the killings in Europe (Charlie killings, etc., ad nauseum), the Pakistanis killing Indians in Kashmir, and on and on and on and on. The media frequently then protects muslims, tells everyone to settle down and not get upset and then it happens again. Churches and schools in the U.S. are shot up and the media really doesn't care about showing much real sympathy to the victims or their self-protection and certainly doesn't care about the Christians killed.

The media doesn't properly censor Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib (We're going to impeach the motherf--er!) for their strident comments, deliberate incitement nor others like them. They can say whatever they want. When someone points out how wrong she is and the hatred perpetrated against non-muslims by muslims, then once on the receiving end of islamic hatred are vilified. You're not going to succeed against me with those diatribes. Shut up, go back to work, and keep your mouths shut or you're going to make this stuff worse.

I used to have a more conciliatory point of view about muslims and letting them live in peace, if they didn't cause any problems and kept their mouths shut. It is obvious THEY are not willing to do that. They should not be allowed to live here and simply MUST go back where they came from (those not from here). THEY do not tolerate other religions once in power (Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc.) and effect violence on those who practice other religions. THEY are the ones causing the conflict and upset. The solution is not to shoot them, I agree, but they must go back to countries that practice that religion and stay there. The reaction to this incident shows they are going to become even more aggressive (as we have seen with Omar, Tlaib and that guy with her who basically assaulted a female journalist trying to cover her protest in some office on Capitol Hill - I will NEVER forget that man and his attitude - that is what causes the conflicts we are seeing.). It is only going to lead to more violence.

They are always so concerned about backlash when one of theirs kills someone. I see absolutely no concern for backlash against non-muslims after this incident, but more of a "You deserve what is going to happen to you." attitude. The root cause of all of this is the total intolerance of islam for any non-islamic person and the acts of violence they commit against US. This demented man alluded to such. I am truly sorry this happened. If I were there and armed, I promise I would have attempted to kill the guy. However, I am NOT going to be demonized, vilified and disarmed by pro-muslim idiots in light of all of this. You're stepping on the wrong toes to try and turn this into a political backlash against conservatives. Wrong move. That fanatical freak in New Zealand does NOT represent us and we are NOT going to be made to suffer any consequence related to that mess.


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To: Bobalu
For Christians, the New testament was the reformation a transformation.

Islam can not be reformed just as the Old Testament could not be reformed. It had failed too many times.

Muslims are welcome to come to Christianity and its saving transformation.

61 posted on 03/16/2019 6:15:22 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

You are always so willing to prove how dim you are.

I admire your persistence.

I guess.


62 posted on 03/16/2019 6:20:33 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Bobalu

You’re insane. There is not one redeeming feature of Islam. Islam is not compatible with any other culture. Its a parasite that kills its host. They all need to be shipped back to the mideast and left to rape , kill and torture each other with great abandonment. Muslims contribute nothing to society except strife and violence.


63 posted on 03/16/2019 6:22:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Bobalu

Islam cannot be reformed, it must be eradicated like that other evil ideology that emulated it, Nazism.


64 posted on 03/16/2019 6:31:51 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bobalu

No for Christians the bible is the bible. You must think God is a schizophrenic. What he said in the old testament he just changed his mind in the new testament. No God does not change his mind. And Jesus reminded us of this when he said he did not come to change the law.

Trying to equate Islam which is a political ideology with religious overtones to Christianity is ridiculous. The entire point of Islam is to conquer and subjugate everybody else. There is no mechanism in the Koran for change. There will never be a reformation of Islam. Stamping it out of our society is the best hope.


65 posted on 03/16/2019 6:33:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The Prime Minster is about to take away citizens rights and freedoms to protect her Muslims


66 posted on 03/16/2019 6:52:49 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I agree totally. I don’t care what happened. Let New Zealand citizens deal with their own self-created mess of allowing aliens to infect their country. Today’s media outrage/frenzy is just more static, these things happen every day in most of the world. It’s just being pushed as one more club with which to destroy Western, Christian civilization.


67 posted on 03/16/2019 6:55:25 AM PDT by resborzage
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To: Free in Texas

After the NZ shooting, what’s the first thing local tv stations around here did? Ran out to Dearbornistan to get reactions from Muslims and Imams, Yet they have never, to my recollection, gone to a local synagogue or church or the Jewish or Christian communities to get their reaction after one of the myriad brutal Muslim attacks in other countries. Of course, all of the mosques around here are getting special police protection following the incident as well.


68 posted on 03/16/2019 6:56:54 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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To: Bobalu

“I also know some Muslims VERY intimately,”

Muslim doctrine says that some classes of people be killed, and some behaviors, especially by women, be punishable by barbaric means of execution.

What goes on deep down in the minds of those Muslims you know? In the right circumstances could they possibly give you an unpleasant surprise?


69 posted on 03/16/2019 6:58:42 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Bobalu
I also know some Muslims VERY intimately, they are magnificent people that I would protect at any cost to myself.

But can you be sure that they would do the same for you?

Someone can be a decent human being, by Western standards. Or he can be a devout Muslim. The two are mutually exclusive, because Islam demands total devotion by all Muslims, to the goal of getting all non-Muslims to submit. No Muslim is allowed to take the side of a non-Muslim against fellow Muslims, although Muslims ARE encouraged to make infidels THINK they are friends.

You therefore need to examine what they really are.

70 posted on 03/16/2019 7:03:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Mooslim kills 50 infidels: Yawn.

Infidel kills 50 Mooslims: OMG!!!


71 posted on 03/16/2019 7:04:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: dp0622

I am not bashing I am facing the reality of the problem. I am simply saying that wrong is wrong and the church needs an overhaul.


72 posted on 03/16/2019 7:08:57 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: coon2000

Words to live by , the mussies are the last you or I and the USA government should ever trust .


73 posted on 03/16/2019 7:11:00 AM PDT by piroque ("When the SHTF I'm gonna hunker down until all those idiots kill each other. ")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When I think about the shooting in New Zealand, I keep seeing Muslims dancing in the streets on 9-11, and think about how our similar celebrations might be received. But then I remind myself that we are not them, and unlike the American left, we do not judge entire groups of people because they share color or ethnicity with some who commit evil acts. It is the distinction that gives us the moral high ground that everyone claims but few legitimately possess.


74 posted on 03/16/2019 7:15:14 AM PDT by Spok
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To: piroque

At their last Muslim summit the plan was set forth to infiltrate and when the numbers allow take over via government.


75 posted on 03/16/2019 7:16:28 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Organized Crime is now in charge of the District of Corruption)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Muslimz terrorize..murder ..steal..rape..across the globe and then claim they are the victims.
Israel is a tiny piece of land ..especially compared to themiddleeast.. but their existence whips muslimz into a crazed murderous frenzy.


76 posted on 03/16/2019 7:28:50 AM PDT by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I heard that this jerks manifesto is still accessible, even though it was "taken down".

It's important because he makes clear he's a leftist, communist, socialist, eco-terrorist.

We need to shine light on HIS self-description, to counter the leftist MSM characterizations.

What I heard from a guy from Christchurch, NZ is that you can plug in the original URL into the "way-back machine".

I assume this means copy and paste the original URL?

77 posted on 03/16/2019 7:29:42 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
...not be allowed to live here any more. You can visit, but..

That appears to be a generous oversight.

The underlying rational that supports exclusion of muslims argues against any visitation. It would be an obsolete manifestation of the often misused and misguided "warm American welcome". Most especially in the face of our current politically-designed impotent border control.

78 posted on 03/16/2019 7:37:31 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialists own the House, if they take the Senate it's lights out, they will "Ballsy" Ford a R pres.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
...not be allowed to live here any more. You can visit, but..

That appears to be a generous oversight.

The underlying rational that supports exclusion of muslims argues against any visitation. It would be an obsolete manifestation of the often misused and misguided "warm American welcome". Most especially in the face of our current politically-designed impotent border control.

79 posted on 03/16/2019 7:39:19 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialists own the House, if they take the Senate it's lights out, they will "Ballsy" Ford a R pres.)
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To: Bobalu

The Quran expressly tells Muslims to kill Christians and Jews, as well as anyone else who doesn’t believe in Islam. If they aren’t true believers, they can be magnificent people.


80 posted on 03/16/2019 7:40:54 AM PDT by excalibur21
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