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What could the Pentagon do with a jet bike?
www.c4isrnet.com ^ | 03-13-2019 | By: Kelsey D. Atherton

Posted on 03/13/2019 10:31:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

"Why risk a helicopter and crew when it is possible to insert operators by swarm?" JetPack Aviation asks, using this concept art to illustrate just such an insertion. (JetPack Aviation)

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The 20th century was rough on cavalry. While the age of battlefield dominance by horse-borne fighters had long since passed, scouting and charging from horseback remained a part of warfare, especially irregular warfare; that is until trenches, barbed wire, machine guns and armored vehicles rendered that use for horses mostly irrelevant.

Cavalry regiments traded in their mounts for armored vehicles, and for the most part the dream of nimble fast scouts or special forces traveling close to the ground was left to motorcycles, if anything.

But what if, instead of a familiar style of vehicle that can run on fuel found most anywhere, there was a new kind of flying machine, specifically targeted at the military? What if it was a jet bike?

That’s the bold promise from JetPack Aviation, a startup that launched preorders for recreational versions of a flying personal vehicle in March 2019.

The preorder form states that only 20 of the vehicles will be sold on the recreational market, with production beyond that dedicated to military and government customers. The company prices its vehicles at $380,000 each, with a preorder buy-in of $10,000. The preorder page, which autoplays a video of a computer rendering of the speeder, does not indicate whether a prototype model of the aircraft has ever flown. It notes, instead, that “the Speeder is not yet a type certified aircraft. It will initially operate in the Ultralight and Experimental categories.”

Jetpack Aviation has previously made a flying machine, though as the company name suggests, that one is a jetpack. In November 2015, the company released a video of a jetpack flight around Ellis Island. Of the 38 videos on JetPack Aviation’s YouTube page, the Speeder is featured in just one. The company listed the Ellis Island jetpack as having a top speed of 100 mph, a maximum altitude of 10,000 feet and a total flight time of 10 minutes.

With the Speeder, the company has upped the numbers on all categories. With four engines (five in the military version) powered by kerosene or diesel, the Speeder is listed as having a top speed that exceeds 150 mph, a ceiling of more than 15,000 feet and a flight time of 20 minutes.

The specifications for the military concept expand the flight time to possibly 30 minutes, and include the option to fly autonomously. The military model, as sketched out, would also be able to use Jet A fuel.

Speeders will announce their presence with all the subtlety and volume of an ambulance siren, thanks to a sound profile estimated at 120 decibels while flying at or below 10 feet.

On noisy, crowded battlefields, that’s less of a concern than for a unit attempting to move discreetly, but it still necessitates the trade-off between using hearing protection and being able to communicate with the rest of the unit. (For one point of comparison, as recently as 2017, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency explored a hybrid electric motorcycle for special operations forces that was 75 decibels on fuel, 55 on electric, and was built on an existing motorcycle that retailed at about $15,000).

Loud and short flights drastically limit what military roles could be performed by those riding Speeders. Flying 50 miles in 20 minutes is impressive, but less so when the vehicle must refuel at the other end. It’s a fun concept, though the utility is somewhat harder to fathom.

Autonomous resupply is the far likelier use for a Speeder. The maximum weight capacity of the concept vehicle is 250 pounds, including pilot, so think more super-fast mule than futuristic scouts or Speeder-mounted cavalry.

If it’s underwhelming to remove a military hoverbike from Star Wars-esque pursuit scenes and use it for practical and mundane logistical work, know that it’s also not unique. That’s the same path followed by Malloy Aeronautics, a company that made a personal transportation prototype aimed it at the commercial market, but then attracted military attention with a fanciful flying motorcycle, only to see it pursued primarily as battlefield resupply.

As the Joint Tactical Aerial Resupply Vehicle, the Malloy Aeronautics hoverbike is aimed at autonomously carrying between 300 and 600 pounds at 60 mph with a run time of 90 minutes and an operational range of 70 miles. Battlefield resupply is the use case, second only to medical evacuation, where the quick transport of small payloads is of tremendous importance.

To the extent that military development of the Malloy hoverbike provides a way to get blood, bullets and food to troops otherwise unable to resupply, a Speeder-like jet bike that can do some of the same mission but faster could carve a niche within the niche.

The limitation of a 25-mile range for return trips can be offset somewhat by delivery just 10 minutes after launch. A one-way mission to get supplies or a medic to troops 50 miles away, with the understanding that the Speeder will be abandoned and scrapped if it cannot be refueled in place, could be an option commanders like having on hand, though perhaps not ideal at a mid-six-figures price point.

For the Speeder to reach that niche within a niche, it will need more than the kind of flashy concept videos that woo Silicon Valley investors. It will take working prototypes, a clear statement of the mission and use case, and a willingness to go through a longer military evaluation process should armed services show interest. There is no amount of speed that can bypass a narrow range of usefulness.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bike; jet; jetbike; motorcycle; smellofnapalminam
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To: SaveFerris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_(2005_film)

This one?....................


21 posted on 03/13/2019 10:46:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, Star Wars


22 posted on 03/13/2019 10:47:29 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Red Badger

Now there IS or ARE motorcycles in the film.


23 posted on 03/13/2019 10:47:30 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

yes


24 posted on 03/13/2019 10:47:48 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

After seeing that picture the first thought that came to mind was sea gulls and Canada geese....


25 posted on 03/13/2019 10:49:52 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: SaveFerris

If you look at the very beginning when they first jump on and before they take off, you can see a wheel. They cleverly tried to hide it by not showing the lower half of the vehicle until it was taking off, but it looks like a regular bike with Hollywood makeup on it, then the CGI takes over.......


26 posted on 03/13/2019 10:50:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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27 posted on 03/13/2019 10:50:23 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Red Badger

They should also put some speakers on the autonomous version to increase the noise … and call it the screamin eagle. Announce it to the battlefield to create a diversion from the actual soldiers.


28 posted on 03/13/2019 10:50:29 AM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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29 posted on 03/13/2019 10:51:14 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Red Badger
They could defeat the evil knievels.


30 posted on 03/13/2019 10:52:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: martin_fierro

As long as it ain’t made by HD, it could be a stealth bike...............


31 posted on 03/13/2019 10:54:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yep, a pelican could ruin your whole day.....................


32 posted on 03/13/2019 10:54:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

There was something that looked like a small wheel but the clip is too grainy for me to make it out (this was after they were flying).

In any case, those are jet bikes with skids. Even the cops chasing them with the machine gun.


33 posted on 03/13/2019 10:55:19 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

When they first exit the facility and are on a road, then one comes screaming by them, I think that one had wheels...............


34 posted on 03/13/2019 10:56:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: DannyTN

I had an Indian 70 and rode the Indian 125(?) way back. Early 1970’s.


35 posted on 03/13/2019 10:56:49 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

That may be the one Ewan wants. Or I think maybe he saw one right after they escaped the facility.


36 posted on 03/13/2019 10:57:45 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

ACME Corporation was building these decades ago.


37 posted on 03/13/2019 10:58:04 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Red Badger
"...could be an option commanders like having on hand, though perhaps not ideal at a mid-six-figures price point."

Effin' ridiculous.

38 posted on 03/13/2019 10:58:40 AM PDT by Hatteras
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39 posted on 03/13/2019 11:01:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

The Arabs have had magic carpets for centuries.


40 posted on 03/13/2019 11:01:12 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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