Posted on 03/10/2019 10:34:55 AM PDT by Valk Rider
I read somewhere on the internet that beer is good for kidney stones. A logical extension in my opinion to lots of water.
yeah i pass lots of two types- calcium and uric acid stones- I would say I’ve passed around 60+- almost all of them small enough to cause minor to medium pain- several have caused major pain- and were quite jagged-
Explaining the pain- a miniature freddy krugger clawing his way out through narrow super sensitive passageway -
or ‘blacking out pain’- I’ve blacked out a couple of times the pain was so bad- fell over- came to fairly quickly, and vomited- which only made the pain worse- I’ve had lots of pain in my life- pain that was say 9 on the pain index- 9 on the index is ‘almost blacking out pain’. 10 would be pain so bad you black out- kidney stone pain hits the 10 at times definitely
people wonder what hell is going to be like- for those that don’t take it seriously- they should- When a kidney stone finally passes- it’s like instant, sweet, beautiful relief- the hell/pain of the stone is finally gone- in hell, that figurative kidney stone will never ever pass- the pain will be continual- never ending- serious stuff! Hell is no joke- people underestimate how awful it’s gonna be-
Well enough of that- got sidetracked- with stones, when the pain begins, it’s impossible to find a comfortable position- many folks with stones get up and move around- I walk around our center isle in kitchen- holding on because i get real weak, dizzy- nauseous etc- and i find i have to do this for hours- sometimes days off and on- mostly on- but walking doesn’t help much- nothing does- it’s awful- the only thing that really helps is when it moves, on it’s own- to a more comfortable spot- which usually lasts a few hours- then pain again- then walking again- it’s a vicious cycle-
Kudos to all those going through them- You are warriors in your own way=-!
[[I can’t believe nobody here mentioned apple cider vinegar with lemonade because upon two hours after you in just a cupful you will feel a difference]]
problem is many people do drink it and get no relief- Every case is different- it’s all where the stone is when you begin drinking it- some folks are mere few hours from passing their stone anyways when they drink it- and think that drinking it made it pass quickly- Some drink it religiously and the stones still take many days to pass- every stone is different- some pass quickly and with little pain- some are very painful briefly, and then not too painful- some are painful for hours on end-
[[I have experienced no pain, just a weird feeling, from passing the stones, through the urethra, the tube from the bladder to the outside.]]
depends on the stone- almost all of mine go through with minimal to mild pain- but a few are hell on earth- right from the back, all the way to the end before dropping being excreted- I can feel the pain move from back to front and work it’s way down with some- and I’m not sure which is worse- the pain in back, or in front in ureter- I usually throw up more when it gets around front- if the stone is a bad one- i think this is because by then, it’s backing up the urine and causing that kind of pain plus the pain of the jagged stone ripping and tearing- who knows- but like i said- usually when it moves away from back, the pain does get better- but not always-
If I was a dictator or a top cop, I’d utilize kidney stones as extreme torture.
https://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/
A good article on high and low oxalate foods.
Been there, passed that. I was happy for the drugs given to me by the ER.
The episode did reset my personal “pain value” of 10 to what a 10 really is....
Drink a lot of water. Get the flow going. Mine was 7 mm. A couple of operations and it was all set. They had me walking around with a stent for a week. Every time I moved it was like getting hit with a bat in my back.
I feel for your wife. Again...drink a ton of water.
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I’ve worked closely with ER staff. They will not do much for you if nothing is seriously or even moderately wrong. They are there for emergencies. If your wife was no an emergency, they twould put her in an open bed, run some tests. Make sure your insurance goes through, and then let you go when the emergency is gone.
If there were real emergencies going on...you wouldn’t get a bed. You would sit until morning.
Our ED was great. Not so much for frequent flyers.
Forgot which female comedian said it.
The stent is put in the stretch the ureter. The issue was probably that her “tube” was too small to let the stone pass.
That is exactly what happened to me. A week with that stent sucked. But the pain was the worst. First time on morphine for me. That is a miracle drug.
I was told by my urologist that the pain comes from urine backing up in the ureter, and once the stone moves to the bladder, the pain will end. She could have passed it and not noticed the stone in the trap, but it could also still be in the bladder. The last stone I passed stayed in my bladder for quite a while, at least a couple of days. I did eventually pass it with no pain, but there was a lot of blood, sorry for the graphic detail. He put me on an antibiotic in case of an infection. She needs to bring the stone in to the doc to have it analyzed so she knows what foods to avoid. She should drink a lot of water everyday, and at least the first glass of the day should have the juice of a half of a lemon in it. The lemon juice will help dissolve most stones and keep them from forming in the first place. If the stone grows too big to pass, it will have to be removed and I understand it’s not pleasant.
A provider who does not administer pain meds for a kidney stone is engaging in malpractice IMHO.
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Once my wife was in and the Doc believed she had a kidney stone. The nurse gave her a shot of pain meds in the hip on the same side she was hurting. She was feeling relief pretty fast. She was literally writhing in pain till the meds too effect.
When people take calcium tablets WITHOUT magnesium it causes calcium to crystalize in the kidneys and cause kidney stones.
You are in a bad way, sir. Talk about a double whammy!
If you haven’t already done so, start a low oxalate diet which will help with the calcium oxalate stones. Speak with your primary care provider about getting a prescription for allopurinol. That will lower your uric acid level which should help with the stones. Those are tricky devils. They show up on CT but not on plain xrays.
It is said that pain is God’s way of telling you that you’re still alive. You are VERY alive some days.
Most kidney stones are uric acid stones, but there are also other types. Depending on the type, there are several home remedies readily available. Google “treatment for kidney stones” and you will find them there.
Talk to a doctor, not an on line pen pal..........
In addition to taking a high quality, highly absorbable magnesium, take Vit D3 and Vit K2 with MK-7. The K2 will keep the calcium out of the soft tissue, ie, heart, arteries, kidneys, directing it to the bones and teeth. It will also help pull calcium deposits out of the soft tissue.
..if they are calcium oxalate stones, I’ve found not overdoing calcium supplements helps, and taking sodium bicarbonate everyday. Pill form is easier...
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