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Is There A Doctor In The House? Kidney Stone!
3/10/2019 | ValkRider

Posted on 03/10/2019 10:34:55 AM PDT by Valk Rider

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To: Valk Rider

I had kidney stones back in June. It took me about 4 hours to pass it and I never went to the doctor. A month later my during a standard visit to my doctor they wanted to put a catheter in and look around. I told them NO. All a catheter would do is cause injury for no good reason.


41 posted on 03/10/2019 11:21:21 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Wow!!!! That’s a new look at what occurs in Hospital and Emergency Rooms around the U.S.
About 18 months ago my wife had a similar stone (3.5 mm) lodged in the upper part of her ureter. The Urologist inserted a ‘Stent’ and it was removed several days later of course with the appropriate medication.
I guess it all depends on where you live and what quality of medicine you’re used too.


42 posted on 03/10/2019 11:24:46 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: BuffaloJack

Hey, Docs got Porsche payments to make....


43 posted on 03/10/2019 11:25:28 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: wally_bert

Bkmrk


44 posted on 03/10/2019 11:26:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: 43north

I forgot one thing. All stoners need to limit their intake of oxalate. Their bodies don’t metabolize it properly and this is what leads to the formation of stones. Visit this site:

https://www.upmc.com/-/media/upmc/patients-visitors/...pdfs/low-oxalate-diet.pdf

It has an easy-to-understand list of high, medium, and low oxalate foods. Unfortunately many of your favorite foods are in the high oxalate list...


45 posted on 03/10/2019 11:26:58 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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To: 43north
Unfortunately the CT showed that she has another stone forming in the mid-pole of the left kidney that will drop someday. DEFINITELY a stoner!

When I had my attack some years a go, the CT scan also found a 2mm and 1 mm stone in one of the lobes. I passed the 2mm stone about 4 months later and the 1 mm stone 5 months after that.

46 posted on 03/10/2019 11:30:30 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: 43north

OK, that link doesn’t work.

Search “Low Oxalate Diet”. The one I use is from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center because its a nice, clean list. That’s UPMC.com but there are others.


47 posted on 03/10/2019 11:31:26 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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To: Valk Rider

There are several types of stones that the body can make. If you can take the stone to a kidney doc he can tell you which type it is and may recommend diet changes.
Keeping hydrated is key.
There is one type that is hereditary (and much less common). If you search for types of stones and treatments you will find a lot of easy to process info. She’s lucky it was tiny.


48 posted on 03/10/2019 11:31:46 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Valk Rider

I had a kidney stone about 3 months ago. Most painful thing I have ever felt. I was vomiting uncontrollably. They did the scan and confirmed it. Shot me up with morphine and sent me home after about 3 hours.

It finally passed after about a week. Trust me, she WILL know when it passes. For me it felt like pulling a porcupine out backwards through my pee pee. It come out in 3 or 4 pieces. Pissed blood 2 or 3 times after but no problems since.


49 posted on 03/10/2019 11:34:27 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Valk Rider

Drinking tea actually causes stones. If she drinks tea then she should stop drinking any tea.


50 posted on 03/10/2019 11:38:22 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: Valk Rider

[[1 stone about 2mm in size.]]

Anything under 5 mm will pass on their own- I have one now that’s 13mm- some get them much larger- ouch

[[Can anyone here speculate if we should be concerned about not passing the kidney stone by now?]]

No- they sometimes take several days to pass- She may have already passed it without realizing it if she isn’t still experiencing pain, or it may be just hanging out in a spot that isn’t painful right now- usually it’s when it blocks the urine from passing that it gets real painful. Sometimes the backup of urine creates enough pressure that it breaks the stone into smaller pieces and it will pass without realizing it- other times it just plain hurts like the dickens for a long long time- it’s a crap shoot with stones- you never know how they are going to pass-

Well reading through the comments it looks like many have stated what i said- Your wife is lucky they gave her pain meds- emergency docs around us just basically say “Suck it up buttercup- it aint gonna kill you” and never give [pain meds anymore for stones-

Ask the doc what type of stone it as as different stones are helped by avoiding different things- usually though, most people only have 1-2 stones in their life- others get them constantly-

Aint it amazing how somethin so small can cripple a full growd person? Uggh- If I were ever to curse an evil person for some reason, it would be to curse them with kidney stones and UTI’s and perpetually soggy socks


51 posted on 03/10/2019 11:38:55 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: submarine571

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I tell the women in my family “You women have it good- you have no idea what real pain is like men who pass kidney stones do”

Then duck as they throw things at me


52 posted on 03/10/2019 11:42:13 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Valk Rider
She may well have passed the stone unknowingly. Believe me, if it were still impeding flow in her left ureter, she would have pain!

My first stone was about the size of hers, and it hung up in (and blocked) the ureter's entrance to the bladder. They say that the mind refuses to fully remember pain -- but, I do recall those two days with a blocked ureter as the worst pain of my life!

SO, if she does have onset of relentless pain, that may indicate a serious blockage. I'd recommend to her urologist that he do an "IVP" test, where they IV-insert a dye that is visible by fluoroscopy -- and causes the UT to vigorously try to empty itself. If there is a blockage, they should be able to locate it.

BUT -- if there is a blockage, the pain from the blocked IVP-induced purging pressure will likely make her "levitate" off of the IVP table! (OUCH!!!)

That should clue the urologist to invasively remove the stone. And, when it's gone, the relief is Heavenly!!

Pleas let us know how she fares. Meanwhile, prayers are lifted up for her -- from the deep northeastern Texas Piney Woods!

All the best...
TXnMA
 

53 posted on 03/10/2019 11:42:50 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! | Remember Goliad! | REPEAT San Jacinto!!)
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To: Valk Rider

How Long Does It Take to Pass a Kidney Stone?
Search domain www.healthline.com/health/kidney-health/how-long-to-pass-kidney-stonehttps://www.healthline.com/health/kidney-health/how-long-to-pass-kidney-stone
Size of the stone is a major factor in whether it can pass naturally. Stones smaller than 4 millimeters (mm) pass on their own 80 percent of the time. They take an average of 31 days to pass.


54 posted on 03/10/2019 11:44:22 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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55 posted on 03/10/2019 11:44:33 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: reformedliberal

you gotta be careful with chanca- if you have large gall stones, it is not recommended- small gall stones i guess it’s ok-


56 posted on 03/10/2019 11:45:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: reformedliberal
I have gallbladder sludge.

Digestive system issue that can lead to many other things.

You need A-F Betafood with each meal FRiend.

Last attack for me, I took Chancra Piedra and it was a miracle. Pain went away and attack was aborted. My understanding is the herb softens the stones. It can be used for gall stones, gout crystals and kidney stones.

Thanks for the report!!

57 posted on 03/10/2019 11:46:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Valk Rider

I would bet that I have had at least 100 of them, ranging in size from a half of a pencil eraser, to tiny. Not knowing what was happening with the first one, I thought I was going to die. Now I pass them with nary a thought.

Since the pain comes from traveling down the ureter, the tube between the kidney and the bladder, I imagine that hers has made it to her bladder, which means no pain. I have experienced no pain, just a weird feeling, from passing the stones, through the urethra, the tube from the bladder to the outside.

Good luck!


58 posted on 03/10/2019 11:58:21 AM PDT by VMI70
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To: Bob434

A provider who does not administer pain meds for a kidney stone is engaging in malpractice IMHO.

Allow me to explain why kidney stones are so painful. Because of the way we develop after conception there are three areas of the body where all of the nerves are represented - the soles of the feet, the cornea of the eye, and - you guessed it - the inside of the ureter. Calcium oxalate stones look like little cockle burrs. They are covered with sharp points because they are mineral crystals. As they pass through the ureter they rip and tear that delicate lining which in turn lights up every nerve in the body, makes you puke, creates a most-unpleasant feeling of impending doom, etc.

I once pondered if kidney stones are God’s punishment for original sin but decided no because not everyone gets them. Thank you God!

I tell people that the best analogy I have come up with for what a kidney stone feels like is to imagine taking a sewing needle and scrape it across the cornea of your eye repeatedly. Well, its worse than that.


59 posted on 03/10/2019 11:59:22 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I had at least eight pass in three weeks three of them all at once the Scan said they can be dissolved I can’t believe nobody here mentioned apple cider vinegar with lemonade because upon two hours after you in just a cupful you will feel a difference I did they can be dissolved The ER did nothing for me


60 posted on 03/10/2019 11:59:43 AM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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