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Californians voted for year-round daylight saving. Could this be our last spring forward?
The Sacramento Bee ^ | March 9th, 2019 | By Claire Morgan

Posted on 03/09/2019 8:05:21 AM PST by Mariner

Many Californians are gearing up to spring their clocks forward for daylight saving time this Sunday but a ballot measure passed in November could make this time switch the state’s last.

Proposition 7, approved by 60 percent of voters in November and sponsored by Assemblyman Kansen Chu, D- San Jose, repealed the 1949 initiative that started daylight saving time in California. The proposition also allows for state Legislature to adjust the state’s daylight saving time, whether it be by a couple days or all year.

“If signed by the governor, the bill will bring California closer to abolishing the outdated practice of switching our clocks in the fall and spring,” Chu told The Sacramento Bee in June.

But the change isn’t permanent yet. Two things are required before Californians can do away with daylight saving time altogether: a bill to pass the state Legislature and to obtain federal authorization through a majority vote in Congress, according to Annie Pham, a member of Chu’s staff.

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To: Sivad

And Hawaii.


41 posted on 03/09/2019 9:38:56 AM PST by TexasKamaAina
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To: windowdude

Indeed the only time the stoners check the clock is the day the dealer is to arrive.


42 posted on 03/09/2019 9:39:48 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Mariner
split it in half and leave it the hell alone...
43 posted on 03/09/2019 9:40:11 AM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Don W
Normal standardized time or an hour advanced, I don’t care, just make a decision and leave it the devil alone!

Just split the difference: move the clocks ahead 1/2 hour and then leave it.

44 posted on 03/09/2019 9:41:37 AM PST by TexasKamaAina
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To: Mariner

Every day I’m up before 5:30 Nice try

If we stayed on standard time it would be getting light at 3:30 in the morning and dark at 7:30 at night where I live. I prefer the daylight in the evening when I get home from work.


45 posted on 03/09/2019 9:41:56 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mariner
You can lose the spring forward.

But you don't want to be caught without fall back.

46 posted on 03/09/2019 9:42:48 AM PST by x
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To: Mariner

It is standard that should be the official time year round.

Standard time is the most natural time.

Natural, as in closest to the observations of the rotation of the earth in a 24 hour period. In standard time, at noon, the sun is at its closest proximity to being directly overhead as it will be that day. It is marking 1/2, or the middle, of the earth’s rotation, as by midnight the sun will appear to be at noon at exactly 180 degrees to the opposite side of of the earth. And at midnight, the appearance of the sun at noon will be twelve hours later.

Artificial “day light savings time” alters the official time away from time’s actual and closest relationship to the rotation of the earth, with respect to our view of the sun, to an artificial mode which represents just the writ of government and nothing else.

And every hour of daylight that daylight savings time gives on one part of the day, it takes on the other. MANY economic studies have shown there is zero net economic gain to daylight savings time.


47 posted on 03/09/2019 9:42:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Cinnamontea

Yeah even with the spring forward and fall back adjustments. Come December its dark from 3pm to 7am. For me that’s better than not switching.


48 posted on 03/09/2019 10:03:49 AM PST by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

All good points. When Obama was president, it never meant we were all “guilty” of electing him and “deserving” what we got with him. CA is in the same boat; we didn’t elect the CA government and we don’t “deserve it”.


49 posted on 03/09/2019 10:27:23 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote; vette6387; DarthVader; ManHunter; bitt; ZULU; NFHale; Liz

LA county and CA recently had to wipe 1.5 million off their voter rolls thanks to Judicial Watch! How many illegal votes occurred in CA in 2016 and 2018? How many illegal votes were cast all over the USA in 2016 and 2018? How many were cooked up by Soros and the DNC?

https://needtoknow.news/2019/01/big-win-judicial-watch-los-angeles-california-must-remove-1-5-million-inactive-voters-voter-rolls/

How many illegal votes put Marxist Newsom in office coupled with the Marxist RATs ballot harvesting that gave 5 Orange County seats to the Marxist RATs?

Voter Fraud has to be a priority immediately before 2020!!!


50 posted on 03/09/2019 10:34:19 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Mariner; All
”… and to obtain federal authorization ..."

Although FDR claimed wartime energy conservation to justify DST, Congress’s using the Constitution’s Article I, Section 8, Clause 5 to justify establishing peacetime daylight savings time is a stretch imo.

Correction welcome.

James Madison had put it this way.

”I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” —James Madison, Speech at the Virginia Convention to ratify the Federal Constitution (1788-06-06)

Thomas Jefferson indicated that it would be better for Congress to petition the states for new powers to be on the safe side.

"In every event, I would rather construe so narrowly as to oblige the nation to amend, and thus declare what powers they would agree to yield, than too broadly, and indeed, so broadly as to enable the executive and the Senate to do things which the Constitution forbids." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

The Supreme Court had put it this way.

Insights welcome.

51 posted on 03/09/2019 10:35:49 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Sivad

“And what does Arizona do?”

Arizona keeps Standard time the year round. The sun comes up anywhere from 5 AM to 7:30 AM, depending on the season.

However, the Federal national parks (Grand Canyon) and Indian Reservations (Navajo, etc.) usually stick to Federal time, meaning, that they DO have daylight savings time.

This creates complications when you are told when to arrive at the Grand Canyon, and you are going by Arizona time instead of Federal time.


52 posted on 03/09/2019 10:50:31 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: Wuli

100% agreed.
DST is just stupid.


53 posted on 03/09/2019 10:58:18 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Moonman62
We want more light in the evenings.

That doesn't work here in Phoenix. On July 4, it can still be 115 degrees at 9 p.m.
54 posted on 03/09/2019 11:07:34 AM PST by righttackle44 (Takes scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Mariner

DST all year round.


55 posted on 03/09/2019 11:09:22 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Tallguy

Let them lead the way on something that’s actually useful for a change! The time changes are crazy.

And yes, Daylight Savings Time is what we want it standardized on.

Go, California!


56 posted on 03/09/2019 11:10:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasKamaAina

Oh, no, we in the Northeast need every minute of daylight savings time we can get!


57 posted on 03/09/2019 11:10:50 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: redshawk
I agree. It's dark enough as it is, and anyway, I'd rather have the light in the morning. I hate getting up and going to work in the pitch black, and it must be awful for kids waiting for the school bus (not to mention dangerous).


58 posted on 03/09/2019 11:18:36 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: Cinnamontea

Farmers don’t like it, either. They claim
the extra hour of sunlight burns up the crops.


59 posted on 03/09/2019 11:20:06 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Mariner

Do we care whether it’s “daylight savings” time or the standard? I’m ok with just one time. I guess sometimes it will be “too dark” or “too light.” Whatever.


60 posted on 03/09/2019 11:22:53 AM PST by Yaelle
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