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The ancient people in the high-latitude Arctic had well-developed trade
Popular Achaeology ^ | 2/23/19 | Staff

Posted on 02/26/2019 1:53:17 PM PST by Openurmind

AKSON RUSSIAN SCIENCE COMMUNICATION ASSOCIATION—Russian scientists studied the Zhokhov site of ancient people, which is located in the high-latitude Arctic, and described in detail the way of life of the ancient people who had lived there. It turned out that, despite the sparsely populated area, the ancient people had communicated with representatives of other territories and had even exchanged various objects with them through some kind of the fairs.

Zhokhov Island, located at 76º N in the New Siberian Islands, 440 kilometers north of the modern coast of the East Siberian Sea, belongs to the High Arctic. Here, the Zhokhov site was discovered, considered the earliest evidence for human habitation in the High Arctic. The settlement was daed to 9300-8600 years ago, where 25-50 people lived permanently. In the remote past, Zhokhov island was a part of a vast plain formed due to significant sea level drop during the Last Glacial Maximum. Because of the post-glacial sea-level rise, this plain was flooded and eroded. At present, the Zhokhov site is located in the south-western part of modern Zhokhov island, near the foot of a low (about 120 m) hill protecting it from the severe north-west wind. This place was very convenient for the ancient people. The hill served as an observation point, and because of the proximity to the coast, they always had a supply of wood, carried in by the sea.

Lithic material was imported 1000 Kilometers from this site and this culture.


TOPICS: Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: arctic; capitalism; flint; flintknappers; flintknapping; godsgravesglyphs; lithics; neolithic; stonetools; zhokhov; zhokhovisland
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To: Kommodor
There are extinction theories or some such that support the idea that more ancient societies existed and were wipped out, leaving small, isolated pockets of prior knowledge that eventually faded.

And to think of it, the odd (small) presence of haplo groups where they should not be found would support that.

21 posted on 02/26/2019 3:35:45 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Openurmind

So do the Amish live in the stone age?


22 posted on 02/26/2019 3:36:28 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: marktwain
They back to the Stone Age outcome would result from mass die off and complete destruction of technology.

They key point being, that the easily axcessible natural reasorces would not be available this time around.

The path of technological would not occur to even re-use the metal pieces/artifacts left behind. Raw materials, unallowed metal, minerals would require too much technology to find.

23 posted on 02/26/2019 3:46:59 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NativeSon
How do you envision such a massive die off to occur?
24 posted on 02/26/2019 3:54:42 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

How many of hose 1% will actually have someone listen long enough to teach them the skills? One generation later it is gone and lost... This is already happening right now...


25 posted on 02/26/2019 3:59:31 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind
Technololgy is a massive advantage to those who use it.

The first tribe to start re-applying technology conquers all those that do not.

It is what happened in the conquest of the world by Western Civilization.

Ignoring technological advantages is a quick way to defeat and the dust bin of history.

26 posted on 02/26/2019 4:02:16 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: central_va

They will be one of the few cultures to survive... and even then only in isolated pockets that will take a thousand years or more to spread the knowledge without air transportation. :)


27 posted on 02/26/2019 4:18:36 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“the ancient people had communicated with representatives of other territories and had even exchanged various objects with them through some kind of the fairs.”

Snow Fairies.


28 posted on 02/26/2019 5:15:39 PM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


29 posted on 02/26/2019 8:46:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: marktwain
Even if 99% of the population died off, the remaining 1% would have all the skills, knowledge and material to rebuild technological society.

Depends who is in the one percent left. If it's government workers, game over for mankind.

30 posted on 02/26/2019 10:17:41 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: marktwain
How do you envision such a massive die off to occur?

I consider the idea that our civilization could at some time in our future be reduced to a primitive state, never to progress, to be in the realm of sci-if.

Asteroid strike, biological warfare, unintentional results of messing around with our genes (e.g. using CRISPR), would/could allow for mass die offs, globally.

If infrastructure, information and tools remained available, I do believe that even a small population could relearn and progress, eventually developing into a technologically advanced civilization.

unless we alter our genome in way that damages our ability to learn/retards mental development

A "skynet" future would not be good for people and their things but I think that is not likely.

unless someone does it on purpose

Years ago, I came across a "prophecy", not sure how old it is/was but downfall is brought about by a group of people that create a "machination of corn".

I do not know how well it was translated from which was undoubtedly an oral language but "machination of corn" sounds like artificial life.

31 posted on 02/27/2019 8:46:24 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.

32 posted on 02/27/2019 10:09:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: NativeSon
Asteroid strike, biological warfare, unintentional results of messing around with our genes (e.g. using CRISPR), would/could allow for mass die offs, globally.

I have thought about this.

I will add a couple of more:

The "grey goo" nanotech, supervolcano, Alien invasion, in order of likelyhood.

It becomes very, very hard to kill off even 99% of the human population. Trying to get to 99.99% is almost (but not quite) impossible. You have to nearly destroy the planet to do that.

99.99% still leaves 600,000 people on the planet.

33 posted on 02/27/2019 10:16:04 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain; NativeSon
Bottleneck of civilizations at Toba eruption:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

34 posted on 02/27/2019 4:10:03 PM PST by Does so (Build the Cpl Ronil Singh Memorial Wall...A Legal Immigrant...)
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