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Cruise of the Great White Fleet
Naval History and Heritage Command ^ | September 5, 2017 | Mike McKinley

Posted on 02/18/2019 4:30:03 PM PST by beancounter13

....With the exception of the few highest ranking naval officials, nobody was aware of Roosevelt's intention to send the fleet around the world. Even the President's own cabinet didn't know about it. All anyone knew was that the fleet would be steaming from the east to West Coast in a training exercise.

Once the plans for the cruise became public, not everyone was impressed....

Senator Eugene Hale from Maine, chairman of the Naval Appropriations Committee, threatened to withhold money for the cruise. But this didn't bother Roosevelt, who replied in his typically brusque and forthright fashion that he already had the money and dared Congress to "try and get it back.".....

(Excerpt) Read more at history.navy.mil ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: 1907; buildthewall; eugenehale; godsgravesglyphs; greatwhitefleet; japan; maine; roosevelt; straitofmagellan; theodoreroosevelt
Reading Wallace’s rather belligerent demands that Stephen Miller, “answer the question” on whether any “president asked Congress for money, Congress refused to give him that money and the president then invoked national emergency powers to get the money” brought to mind something my old College History professor mentioned about Teddy Roosevelt and the Great White Fleet.

That particularly memory was that TR wanted the money, congress said, ‘no’, and TR sent the ships around the world anyway. When the ships got to Australia and ran out of money, TR told congress that if they wanted their navy back, they would have to appropriate they money to bring them home.

Looking for evidence of that, I ran across this article and thought I would share it given the current situation with wall funding. I found it an interesting read.

One thing to remember: TR is one of only 4 presidents with his face carved on Mt. Rushmore......

1 posted on 02/18/2019 4:30:03 PM PST by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13
I couldn't find a mountain for our last president. Will this do?


2 posted on 02/18/2019 4:56:33 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: beancounter13

“Bully, bully!”


3 posted on 02/18/2019 4:56:58 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

Do it again.


4 posted on 02/18/2019 5:03:53 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: beancounter13

My Grand Uncle was a fireman aboard USS Kansas BB-21, for the around the world voyage. He remained aboard Kansas through WWI. He retired out of the Navy in 1925 as a chief water tender.


5 posted on 02/18/2019 5:09:12 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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6 posted on 02/18/2019 5:14:19 PM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: Ingtar

Looks more like Micheal.


7 posted on 02/18/2019 5:26:35 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: beancounter13

Until now, no POTUS would have been refused money to defend our border from invasion, which is his Constitutional DUTY to do. -And theirs.


8 posted on 02/18/2019 5:31:08 PM PST by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: beancounter13; All

From the time of the Great White Fleet America was known and respected as a dominating world power.

Yeah, we had to prove it a couple a three times, but today no sane person would fire on the US fleet from a flagged vessel of their own.

They just are not eager to die.


9 posted on 02/18/2019 6:00:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: beancounter13

TR is also our last Republican President from New York — before Donald Trump.


10 posted on 02/18/2019 6:35:17 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks beancounter13.

11 posted on 02/18/2019 6:54:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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That is a really great find bean counter. Thank you.


12 posted on 02/18/2019 7:07:38 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Rockingham

Good point. I hadn’t thought of that.....


13 posted on 02/18/2019 7:15:28 PM PST by beancounter13
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“but today no sane person would fire on the US fleet from a flagged vessel of their own.”

Only Iranians in motorboats would threaten, and demand they surrender.


14 posted on 02/18/2019 8:05:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: beancounter13

TR certainly helped to expand .gov in many forms. Just look back at the 1912 progressive party platform.


15 posted on 02/18/2019 8:18:34 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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True, and I disliked him when I was younger because of it.

Now that I am older, I have come to realize that some government regulation is necessary to protect the citizenry. Thus, my approval of building the wall and limiting the number of H1B visas.

Total free enterprise can be problematic, too.


16 posted on 02/18/2019 8:31:49 PM PST by beancounter13
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