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1 posted on 02/12/2019 1:54:06 PM PST by Signalman
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I just did Boston from the north yesterday - 495 & 93. On the way in @ 0600, gridlock starts around Wilmington (approximately 16 miles from Boston). On the way out @ around 1600, gridlock lasts all the way to Reading (10 miles from Boston), with stop and go the rest of the way.

It makes the commuter rail, which sucks and is expensive, a dream in comparison.

2 posted on 02/12/2019 2:00:17 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Oh gee gosh golly!! We better had give up our cars and hop on L’il Lexie’s New Green Deal Train! What a timely article! Thanks, MSM !!


3 posted on 02/12/2019 2:03:14 PM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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Even when traffic is moving I’m amazed at the commutes people are willing to tolerate.


4 posted on 02/12/2019 2:05:00 PM PST by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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I know how to fix the traffic congestion in DC... we had a test run only a bit more than a month ago.


6 posted on 02/12/2019 2:17:50 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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Democrats oppose road expansion despite rising gas tax revenues.

The other issue is vehicles driving at different speeds...something solved by autonomous vehicles.


8 posted on 02/12/2019 2:20:48 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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It’s Money That Matters
https://youtu.be/wEdnd8hQA30


9 posted on 02/12/2019 2:26:35 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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It’s a good thing we spent 20+ Billion taxpayer dollars on the “big dig” in Boston. Can you imagine how bad traffic would be if we had to wait the additional 6 minutes “big dig” saved?!? /s (for the sarcastically impaired)


11 posted on 02/12/2019 2:34:43 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Video: Boston Driving Song
13 posted on 02/12/2019 2:35:48 PM PST by Maceman (Democracy dies with Democrats.)
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a traffic hold up for me is literally getting stuck for a minute or two behind a sh1t spreader... thank God it's never more than one
18 posted on 02/12/2019 3:19:52 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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The dollar figures are phony.

They equate “inconvenient time” in EVERY case as time not spent doing something that would have been earning money (”lost productivity”).

When in fact, the “time lost” is normally NOT time “away from the desk where wages are earned” but just “extra time getting to and from work” - needing to leave earlier and getting home later, due NOT to hours, or hours lost at the desk, just time spent on the road.

In other words that extra time would not have been earning anything, it would have been relaxing, before and after work. THAT cannot be given a dollar figure, as important as that time is to the individuals.

Yes, INRIX could rate traffic congesttion, but they should quit the myth of the dollar figures in “lost productivity” about it. They cannot compute it. They have no way of knowing how many of the extra minutes or hours driving represents “lost productivity”.

There might be a certain dollar figure that could be discerned from the “shipping” and “delivery” industries, alone. It would relate to lost dollars in overtime due to the traffic that freight & delivery drivers have to contend with. There might even be some way to discern costs due to “lost productivity” for those goods not delivered on time where needed for industry. There might even be “cancellation of order” costs related to late deliveries.

But those things are not what the NRIX index does, as far as costs.

It merely assumes every “extra moment” of driving for everyone who is driving is time not spent working when they would have been working and/or it took away from “productive” time at an income loss. There is no such way to discern that from the traffic data alone.

And the “cost” per hour/minute of time? INRIX’s methodology for estimating that cost is proprietary and they do not reveal how they come up with it.

So their “costs” - ALL OF THEM - cannot be independently verified.


20 posted on 02/12/2019 3:36:02 PM PST by Wuli
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They’re designing them to be walkable not driveable.

Freedom of movement not good for commies.


22 posted on 02/12/2019 4:04:05 PM PST by fruser1
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AMTRAK Hiawatha service between Chicago and Milwaukee was one of those dedicated high speed services that speed wise never met its hyperbole . It could have replaced the Chicago North Shore electrified commuter line, but never acquired its right of way. Which used Chicago L tracks into the Loop. But was denied use in the late 50’s and abandoned when the city merged individual privately owned companies Chicago Surface Lines (street car and bus service) Chicago Motor Coach Co servicing suburban north shore suburbs and Chicago Elevated railroad was reorganized like AMTRAK into into the Chicago Transit Authority.


23 posted on 02/12/2019 4:16:00 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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