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NYPD to Google - Stop telling the public where we are!
New York Plst ^ | 2/6/2019 | Danielle Furfaro, Tina Moore and Lia Eustachewich

Posted on 02/07/2019 6:36:37 AM PST by fremont_steve

The NYPD is demanding Google yank a feature from its Waze traffic app that tips off drivers to police checkpoints — claiming such warnings could be considered “criminal conduct.”

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Seems to me that NYPD is violating free speech rights here? What is the difference between this and standing across the street filming a DUI checkpoint while simultaneously live streaming it? We KNOW that filming police is legal...so how is there ANY difference?
1 posted on 02/07/2019 6:36:37 AM PST by fremont_steve
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To: fremont_steve

The checkpoints are out in public , they can be watched , videoed and reported upon. I’m not smuggling 12 year old Guatemalan girls or 20 kilo’s of cocaine in my car but I would still want to know about delays along my route.

This is a free speech issue.


2 posted on 02/07/2019 6:43:37 AM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: fremont_steve

This has been challenged before, except in the 70’s with the popularity of CB Radios. People would announce where the cops are on high ways. The app is doing the same thing, its freedom of speech like you said.


3 posted on 02/07/2019 6:45:00 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: fremont_steve

I can’t remember. Is it legal to flash your lights to warn oncoming cars about a speed trap ahead? Seems I’ve heard of drivers getting tickets for doing that. Doesn’t stop me though.


4 posted on 02/07/2019 6:48:05 AM PST by moovova
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To: fremont_steve

Waze tells you. Before waze we would flash our headlights at oncoming traffic to warn our fellow drivers that there was a radar trap ahead.

We’re not talking about stopping murderers from getting arrested here.


5 posted on 02/07/2019 6:49:29 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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How many pings from a Waze site and a cell phone tower does it take Google to associate a phone number with a LEO?


6 posted on 02/07/2019 6:49:47 AM PST by ptsal
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To: fremont_steve

Oh no ! The Surveillance cops don’t like being watched !

Awwwwwww


7 posted on 02/07/2019 6:50:44 AM PST by Celerity
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Great shades of flashing your lights on the thruway to alert drivers they were approaching a speed trap....I know they used to ticket folks they caught doing it but haven’t heard of that in a long time....


8 posted on 02/07/2019 6:51:27 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: fremont_steve

Dear New York PD,

Ligma balls.

Love,

Laz


9 posted on 02/07/2019 6:51:33 AM PST by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended up being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Vaquero

Now, there are some fuzz busters that can share data with others who own the same detector.


10 posted on 02/07/2019 6:53:04 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Hmm. The NYPD's position on their surveillance cameras is that when you are in public you have no expectation of privacy.

The checkpoints are in public, therefore the NYPD has no expectation of privacy.

In other words, blow it out your a$$, NYPD.

11 posted on 02/07/2019 6:54:58 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Kill all the red light cameras, then may we’ll sympathize with ya.


12 posted on 02/07/2019 6:55:50 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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Kill all the red light cameras, then may we’ll sympathize with ya.


Waze alerts you to those also. Great feature.


13 posted on 02/07/2019 7:05:19 AM PST by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: fremont_steve

Ugh, yet another google product in my life. I didn’t realize it was google until now - looks like it was bought in 2013.


14 posted on 02/07/2019 7:06:16 AM PST by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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To: fremont_steve

Waze is no different than calling your friend on the phone following you down the same road and warning them of a speed trap ahead.


15 posted on 02/07/2019 7:06:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Some yokel sheriff tried this stunt a few years back.

He couldn’t give an example of police being endangered by Waze spotters and, of course, the lazy media didn’t ask.

Waze DOES allow ‘crowdsourcing’ to spread knowledge of speed traps, DUI checkpoints etc. - which of course endangers revenue collection (hello Bland County VA coppers).

It is for this reason that police resent it.


16 posted on 02/07/2019 7:06:58 AM PST by relictele
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To: fremont_steve

Don’t the cops want people to know there was a speed trap so they slow down? Isn’t public safety their concern? Why, this makes is seem like these speed traps are nothing more than a revenue generator.


17 posted on 02/07/2019 7:13:48 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Trump.Deplorable
I occasionally use waze, and yes I've tagged where police are, where road hazards are, etc. I also flash my lights at oncoming drivers if they are approaching a speed trap.

I look at it as a safety issue. People who are so inclined are going to speed. I generally don't. I might coast along within a few mph of the speed limit on most streets just because I'm not obsessive about maintaining exactly the speed limit. For example, I'll let it roll a few mph over down a hill, and coast back down to the speed limit on the next uphill. On the highway, I'm generally not the fastest or the slowest - I run with what most of the traffic is doing. There are always a few people on either end of the bell curve - blazing along well over the speed limit or wandering along 5 or even 10 under.

But there are those people that do speed significantly, or who feel guilty at even 5 or 10 over on the highway. When they suddenly see a speed trap, they slam on their brakes. I've seen it first hand many, many times (I'm approaching a million miles on the road in various cars, trucks, and motorcycles). That's not safe for anyone following. That's the main reason I warn other drivers. Not to thwart LE, not to save speeders money or points. To help prevent sudden unexpected actions. Best rule of thumb for any relatively new drivers out there: remember the 3 S's. Don't do anything sudden, surprising, or stupid. I've only ever had one accident, and yes *I* violated the "don't do nuthin' stupid" rule.

18 posted on 02/07/2019 7:15:04 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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That's not safe for anyone following.
It sounds like a case of following too close. It happens to the best of us, but leaving a safe distance is the only certain defense.
19 posted on 02/07/2019 7:23:09 AM PST by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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To: fremont_steve

Please, please, PLEASE, hit google with something illegal.

There is no greater threat, IMHO, than google to our freedoms.


20 posted on 02/07/2019 7:24:57 AM PST by Maris Crane
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