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How should conversations about toxic masculinity deal with the toxic women who also perpetuate it?
Washington Post ^ | January 18, 2019 | Monica Hesse

Posted on 01/18/2019 7:34:54 PM PST by EdnaMode

So, Gillette, the razor and shaving conglomerate, has released a commercial that is either Oscar-worthy or the devil’s own butthole, depending on your view of masculinity.

This happened while I was home sick and by the time I dragged myself to a screen and actually watched the thing, it didn’t seem as revolutionary or inspirational as it had been described. Mostly, it felt ad-spirational — that weird sweet spot where a company wants to convince you that you can Mach-3 your way to gender equality. But still, Gillette was trying. “It’s time we acknowledge that brands, like ours, play a role in influencing culture,” the company posted on its website, vowing to “challenge gender expectations.”

Sure. Praise be. But, from my sick bed, I had just one thought experiment for Gillette: Should an ad about toxic culture have included toxic women?

If you haven’t seen the commercial, here’s a recap. In a series of vignettes, men harass women, and boys bully each other until a voice-over intones, “We believe in the best in men.” Then, suddenly, the vignettes have heroes: a man tells his friend that harassing is “not cool,” a father instructs two fighting boys, “that’s not how we treat each other.”

The heroes of the commercial are men, the villains are also men, and women are present mostly as props. I appreciate why: the overarching message is that men can and should mentor other men. It’s not a woman’s responsibility to avoid harassment; it’s the responsibility of men to not harass her. Women shouldn’t have to educate men; men are capable of educating themselves.

But if we’re really going to talk about culture, then is there a way to acknowledge that culture is vast, insidious, with roots that go deep and end up producing some misogynist women?

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: gillette; gillettead; gillettecommercial; toxicfemininity; toxicmasculinity
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To: Mikemurphy

it sounds like a great reason for men to stay single and to play the field but not let any of the other team get into a position to take his money in a divorce.


21 posted on 01/18/2019 9:02:49 PM PST by oldenuff35
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To: Pelham

Multiple edge disposables tug my bead. What kind of blade would you recommend? I’ve been looking at Feathers.


22 posted on 01/18/2019 9:04:59 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: EdnaMode

Let’s talk about toxic journalists - and the damage they do to our country.


23 posted on 01/18/2019 9:07:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Anyone remember MSNBC bimbos crying about out of work steel workers or coal miners or anyone?)
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To: EdnaMode
50% of these so called Toxic Males (OK, so it's 48%) are RAISED by SINGLE MOTHERS!!!

the road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's azz...

24 posted on 01/18/2019 9:08:57 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: EdnaMode

Let’s talk about toxic journalists - and the damage they do to our country. Monica Hesse would enjoy and ad like that Gillette... so do it.


25 posted on 01/18/2019 9:09:05 PM PST by GOPJ (Anyone remember MSNBC bimbos crying about out of work steel workers or coal miners or anyone?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Picked up a Harry’s kit today, but I did glance at a safety razor. My grandfather used one for many years. :)


26 posted on 01/18/2019 9:32:09 PM PST by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: EdnaMode

I was just wondering: When the men on the Titanic gave the highest priority to women and children for the lifeboats, was that a case of toxic masculinity?


27 posted on 01/18/2019 9:36:31 PM PST by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: EdnaMode; All

Yeah, that ad was horrible. I’ve been on the suicide hotline for days. Going to seek counseling next week.


28 posted on 01/18/2019 9:50:47 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: EdnaMode
Toxic Masculinity: it doesn't just affect men. It can affect women too!

I guess if a woman identifies as a man then it can affect her, er, him, er, it.

29 posted on 01/18/2019 10:16:01 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: EdnaMode

I don’t believe this woman should make another effort at producing thought.


30 posted on 01/18/2019 10:18:46 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: TheZMan

My father used a safety razor. I never did.

It arrives Saturday.


31 posted on 01/18/2019 10:27:59 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: EdnaMode

This “journalist” lost me at “devil’s own butthole”.


32 posted on 01/18/2019 11:23:47 PM PST by Crucial
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To: EdnaMode

There is no toxic masculinity. There is toxic feminazism.


33 posted on 01/19/2019 2:08:59 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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Holy moly... I just found out what gender fluid was 2 weeks ago, which led me surmise that Tranny fluid wasn’t actually for transmissions. Now this!


34 posted on 01/19/2019 3:21:24 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed it wright.)
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To: EdnaMode

bookmark


35 posted on 01/19/2019 3:22:27 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Clutch Martin

Blinker fluid.


36 posted on 01/19/2019 3:29:11 AM PST by Califreak (Your Tagline Here)
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To: EdnaMode

to them toxic masculinity is someone who rescues them from an attacker because he is a man..the light is not shining on them, they think all was so fair before..no clue at all


37 posted on 01/19/2019 4:13:01 AM PST by aces
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To: EdnaMode
Re: Men should mentor men

Uh?....The message:
Black men good! White men bad!

I am reminded of Orwell's Animal Farm. ( Oink!)

38 posted on 01/19/2019 4:40:26 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: EdnaMode
Re: Being sick and dragging herself to the screen

Hm?...Monica doesn't know how to use her smart phone while sick? Really?

39 posted on 01/19/2019 4:44:10 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: EdnaMode
Toxic Masculinity: it doesn't just affect men. It can affect women too!

Especially them toxic hateful "feminists" who haven't a clue what "feminine" means...they are denying themselves of so much that it is rotting their brains.

40 posted on 01/19/2019 7:56:31 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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