Posted on 01/09/2019 4:38:27 PM PST by dayglored
Quality Assurance? We've heard of it
Microsoft has doubled down on efforts to persuade users to migrate to Windows 10 by breaking Windows 7 networking for some.
Windows Server 2008 R2 is also affected.
While the last few monthly updates for the soon-to-be-obsolete OSes featured a known issue affecting an "unknown" number of "problematic configurations" that require manual reinstalls of network drivers, January's monthly update seems to have upped the ante somewhat.
2019's treat has seen some users finding their shares are now inaccessible, with RDP and other connectivity also suffering.
The issue, which affects both the bonzer monthly roll-up (KB4480970) and the more petite Security-only update (KB4480960, which has no known issues according to Microsoft at time of writing), leaves users receiving an INVALID_HANDLE
when attempting to kick off a SMB2 connection.
A bit of sleuthing by a contributor posting on Administrator.de has pointed to the problem being related to Microsoft tweaking security settings in the update, with administrators on the host system being affected.
The post by "Andi" at Administrator.de reckoned it was down to "an extension of security".
This is of scant comfort to users who have had to back-out the patch to get connectivity up and running again. After all, there is important stuff in those updates that really needs to be installed.
The Administrator.de contributor suggested a possible solution, requiring a Registry change around Admin credentials.
Users have reported success, but The Reg has been unable to check it out for ourselves, so try it at your own risk. The usual health warnings apply: fiddling with the Registry could leave your system irrevocably borked.
Others have opted to uninstall and await an official fix to be emitted by Microsoft.
We contacted the Windows giant to find out when such a fix might be forthcoming, but have yet to receive a response.
In the meantime, a Reddit thread has popped up with users discussing their own experience of Microsoft's latest quality cockup, with one wag observing: "We are their QA and I think we do a fantastic job of finding problems. Just not pre-release."
Ouch. ®
Is this what you are talking about?
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: IEXPLORE.EXE
Application Version: 11.0.9600.17937
Application Timestamp: 55a7f8da
Fault Module Name: MSHTML.dll
Fault Module Version: 11.0.9600.17937
Fault Module Timestamp: 55a811ac
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0014ba89
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 7997
Additional Information 2: 799789f64bae60b11a604570ae848476
Additional Information 3: ce83
Additional Information 4: ce83523699f41910e8054512eb69ca95
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Or it is a play on words (e.g. whore)?
I never described Windows as clunky. Windows is a standard and a technological miracle. Even Apple Fanboys and hardcore Linux users should be grateful to them. Microsoft makes the technological world go round. However the updates are often meant to be helpful to Microsoft's bottom line and sometimes they can be a disaster for users.
By the way Bill Gates has not been CEO of Microsoft since January of 2000, 19 years ago... at that time people perceived Microsoft differently than they do these days.
Wow, they still make windows?
People still trouble shoot it as unpaid MS tech workers?
.......
Peacefully Windows-Free for +8 years.
No viruses.
No malignant software.
No updates that didn’t work.
No reinstalling windows.
No reinstalling drivers.
He got out while the gettin was good.
Unfortunately, he chose to spend his time and money on horrible things like Common Core.
I blame Melissa, who before she became Mrs. Gates was mainly noted for creating Microsoft BOB. She steered Bill away from tech and into Politically Correct Do-Gooderism.
I thought it was a crash,,, but not sure after you posted that.
7seems to be crashing more recently and I am uusing Safari more and more.
Cannot get links to open into safari though they all go to IE
Why are you using Windows 7 Network Shares?? No SMB3 encryption according to:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23902522/file-sharing-encryption-in-windows-7-and-8-1#26904206
Not Melissa, Melinda. Damn autocorrect.
True, but irrelevant. Most of the world of Windows runs old, if not obsolete, protocols because.... they work well enough.
As a security minded System Admin, I am appalled by this. But I have to acknowledge that it is reality.
I gave up on Safari on Windows too unstable and misbehaving. But I also gave up on I.E. long ago. I run Firefox, and it performs very acceptably on Win7. Chrome does well also, but Im not as much a fan of Chrome.
I just checked and see that KB4480970, KB4481480 and KB890830 are waiting to be installed.
My last update was 12-12-2018.
What should I do?
The new safari is more stable but they changed a lot of the things I liked about the old design, so I still use the old one.
What I don't understand is the talk about "networks" and the new update. Thus far, I have seen NO change in how my laptop works and I can get here, other sites, use BING ( I've been off GOOGLE for many years ), get and receive email, etc.!
It's the "problems", mentioned in the article, that I don't understand.
My wife and I were trying to watch this stupid play and the kids behind her kept kicking her seat and pulling her hair. Their dad was on his giant late 1990s laptop and completely ignoring them. So when the lights came up for the intermission I started gave him a ration of crap for his inconsiderate kids and him for bothering the people behind him with his laptop. After I finished I realized it was Steve Ballmer, I had just chewed out. He apologized and closed his laptop and his kids didn't give us any more trouble after that.
I would just hold off on installing updates until Microsoft announces that it has issued a corrected update. It’s usually only a couple of weeks.
That's truly epic! The fact that he actually backed down is even more so.
As a “Use Win 7 till I die” person, I’m really glad MSFT updates are turned off here. Glad that updates CAN BE turned off.
I’ve got a new Intel 500GB SSD that is partioned 300gb and 200GB. The 200GB is for Win 7 Pro and the 300GB is for Linux Mint Cinnamon, my first try with Linux.
The phrase "Windows computer" is just shorthand for "computer that has Windows installed on it". Yours is one.
> What I don't understand is the talk about "networks" and the new update. Thus far, I have seen NO change in how my laptop works and I can get here, other sites, use BING ( I've been off GOOGLE for many years ), get and receive email, etc.!
If you don't connect your laptop to other things like storage devices (hard disks in their own enclosures), then you probably aren't doing any "networking", beyond your connection to your internet modem. Networks are what you get when you interconnect multiple computers, storage devices, and so forth. It sounds to me like you don't do that, so you need not worry about it.
> It's the "problems", mentioned in the article, that I don't understand.
The problem is that the latest Windows Update for Win7 breaks some of the functionality required to operate the networks described above. So it sounds to me like you're in the clear.
A more detailed explanation of networking and the specifics of the problem this update creates, is well beyond the scope of a simple answer. :-)
Yeah, though you have to be careful when roaming about on the Internet, opening dodgy emails, and so forth. But you know that already. :-)
> Ive got a new Intel 500GB SSD that is partioned 300gb and 200GB. The 200GB is for Win 7 Pro and the 300GB is for Linux Mint Cinnamon, my first try with Linux.
I think you'll have a good time. Linux Mint is a good distro, and highly recommended for getting your feet wet.
SSDs rock. I'll never use a spinner again for a system drive. Large storage, a spinner is fine. Archival storage, likewise fine. But never again for a system drive.
Do backups, though. Unless your system can do hardware RAID, when an SSD goes south, it really goes, and in my experience it's often sudden. Backups.
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