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Interesting. No talk of 'Food Deserts' when 0bama was King...

The “food desert” paradox

Ashanté Reese, an assistant professor at Spelman College, lives on Atlanta’s Westside, within two miles of a pair of dollar stores. Her zip code was particularly hard hit in the recession, suffering a 50 percent foreclosure rate. Those demographics are now changing, but the residents for a long time included elderly folks and people on fixed incomes—the exact kind of shoppers dollar-store executives have said they are targeting.

There’s also a traditional supermarket, a Kroger, which is where Reese shops. But the one near her house isn’t as nice as the one 15 minutes away, she says. The one in a whiter, more affluent neighborhood regularly advertises grains, nuts, seafood, olives, and wine.

1 posted on 12/29/2018 6:41:14 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Boo hoo. First world problems.

How many people worldwide would be grateful just to have clean tap water? Even just cold water. How many people’s only access to water is contaminated and requires a trek to an alligator infested pond and back. Flint, Michigan’s water would be a big improvement.


2 posted on 12/29/2018 6:46:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It just might be that the Dollar Store statisticians have identified what sells in depressed areas and are catering to their market. If they geared up with fresh produce and nutritious food items, chances are they would rot on the shelf.

It is not rare to see an EBT card customer with a basket full of junk food, sweets and cigarettes.

3 posted on 12/29/2018 6:46:38 AM PST by Baynative ("A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Busybodies. Next thing you know they’ll want government run health care.


4 posted on 12/29/2018 6:47:20 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Those stores are like roaches.

From what I can see, it’s not restricted to poor neighborhoods - those damn things are everywhere. Down the mountain, we have three of them within a couple miles of each other. When my daughter and I went on vacation through the south, it became a running joke to point the things out every five minutes - because in many cases that’s the ONLY store you would see for miles.


5 posted on 12/29/2018 6:47:42 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, this is the new Black cause.

In the neighborhoods in question, the local folk rip off legitimate grocery stores left and right. Their already slim margins can’t handle this so they close.


6 posted on 12/29/2018 6:47:44 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sounds like a golden business opportunity for a leftist/commie. Open 100s of expensive, upscale supermarkets selling lots of organic food, but not bad stuff like beer, wine, etc in every big city, in the poorest areas that are “under-served”. What could possibly go wrong with that!


7 posted on 12/29/2018 6:48:22 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The ghetto dwellers create their own “food deserts”by shop lifting.Drive the main line stores out of the neighborhood.


8 posted on 12/29/2018 6:48:44 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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Haven’t convenient stores existed for a long time? Were they offering all the nutritional value that people needed? What’s the difference?


10 posted on 12/29/2018 6:49:03 AM PST by boycott
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Typical liberal pretzel logic.


11 posted on 12/29/2018 6:49:57 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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So,,, Dollar Stores are racist and cause poverty, Who knew???

Good Grief!


12 posted on 12/29/2018 6:49:58 AM PST by Airwinger
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No talk of minimum wage, either. Increases in it makes these small shops cheaper to operate.


14 posted on 12/29/2018 6:51:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Most Dollar stores are a rip off if you factor in the cost per item/oz/serving/etc...

But I won’t forsake them in neighborhoods where the “po people” that live there make poor life choices and so the only stores that will move there are dollar stores.


15 posted on 12/29/2018 6:51:40 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I tend to agree with the article, although for slightly different reasons.

In my area 4 new ones popped up over a year.. Simply on my way to the bank. I live in Rural Pennsylvania. I can not stress this enough - I drive 20 miles to my bank and now pass 6 of them.

These stores carry every bit of junk that you can think of, but I have used them. Because it’s so close (And my other nearest option is a Walmart which is basically an up-scale dollar general) I’ve gone there for milk and things like that.

The quality is terrible. But there is a 1 mile trip versus 12 mile trip to a real grocery store (The real grocery store has actual local farm goods and is a blessing on our community) so the poor are making that trip instead. But here is where I vary from the writer:

When you fill shelves with penny items, people don’t save to get those items anymore.

I have this thing with my wife. She is a “cheap clothing” person and I am ... certainly not. She thinks I think I’m a celebrity with my $100 shoes and $80 pants. The key is that I have fiscal discipline and will compare a $5 pair of pants (which is how much, tops, one should pay for Levis) to a $20 pair of designer jeans that last me far longer. I’ve been wearing my Bloomingdales / Macys clothes for well over a decade where the cheaper stuff seems to last about a year.

So she is on the “Go to where its cheaper” side and I am “I’ll save up and get something that will last” sort. The world is not as rich as it was when I was being raised, and now kids are being taught that penny-pinching is saving. Dollar general is the result.


16 posted on 12/29/2018 6:51:55 AM PST by Celerity
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No talk of 'Food Deserts' when 0bama was King...

Actually, there was. I recall Michelle made a big deal out of it. Of course, it was raised so he could "fix" it.

Here in Phoenix the "99 cent store" chain has plenty of produce. Dollar Tree et al have only displaced similar convenience stores that charged much more in cities like Chicago, and Dollar General/Family Dollar creates a local option for folks in smaller towns for dry goods, etc.

For the article to use "Whole Foods" as a comparison is insane.What are folks on a budget going to do in a store that sells salmon frankfurters for $11.99 a package. They are better off getting TV dinners and meat patties that they can actually afford. They should at least have used Stop and Shop, Kroger, Publix, Schnuck's and Winn-Dixie for their comparion. They should be CELEBRATING Aldi which has no name canned goods, and surprisingly good produce. Here in Phoenix, the Spanish markets (Food City, El Rancho) often have great produce and superior meats in terms of variety and freshness, if a lack of high end cuts. The market is providing what people want.
17 posted on 12/29/2018 6:52:05 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Dollar Tree is a great store!

I dont live in a poor part of town by any means, and I would love to have one nearby.


19 posted on 12/29/2018 6:52:24 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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This is why we need the government to take control of food production and distribution. /ussr


20 posted on 12/29/2018 6:53:03 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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What I don’t understand is the people who go in and rob the cashier at a dollar store.

What is the take, maybe $500? tops? Between credit cards and low ticket sales pricing, can’t be much.

Probably could score just as much filling up a shopping cart with boxes of movie theater candy and sending kids to sell it for $5 a box “for charity”.


22 posted on 12/29/2018 6:53:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Uh, how does selling food the author doesn’t approve of “trap” people living nearby, especially if it didn’t cause the closure of outlets for acceptable fare? It didn’t take away choices they had before. Plus, if there were a market in that neighborhood to sell the foods he wants people to eat, people would be there selling them.

He should just listen to his inner tyrant and advocate for Obamafood. Just order the people to buy the food he wants them to or face a tax penalty. If you like your Fritos, you can keep your Fritos!


23 posted on 12/29/2018 6:53:52 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Two of these “dollar” stores are nearby. Nearly always have three or four cars parked in front. Our minority population is probably less than 1 percent.


24 posted on 12/29/2018 6:54:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ridiculous.

If there are such things as “food deserts”, they are in rural areas where there’s not a critical mass of population to sustain local stores. (And people find ways to cope or move back into an area in which they can cope.)

Major cities are most of what they are talking about here, and any such city has a robust bus (and/or subway) system by which residents can get to stores with what they want. If enough local residents wanted to buy broccoli and quinoa in a poor area, little street vendors, bogedas, or corner or grocery stores would supply them.

Yeah, with all the theft in areas where criminals congregate, the price is going to be higher, as it is at any convenience location if there’s not a high-enough volume demand and general low prices to support cheaper suppliers.

Look at the Chinatown in any major city—plentiful, cheap vegetables. Also, Latin areas have fresh veggies in their local markets. Same with Koreans. Or Filipinos. Or, well, you get the idea.


25 posted on 12/29/2018 6:54:51 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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