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Greenhouse gas 'detergent' recycles itself in atmosphere: NASA study
Model output of OH primary production over a 24-hour period in July tracks with sunlight across the globe. Higher levels of OH over populated land are
likely from OH recycling in the presence of NO and NO2, which are common pollutants from cars and industry. Credit: NASA / Julie Nicely
1 posted on 12/02/2018 1:08:15 PM PST by ETL
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To: ETL
OH! noes....

CO2 remains an excellent plant food?

CAGW still falls flat on it's @$$.

Drill, baby Drill!

2 posted on 12/02/2018 1:12:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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If such a "detergent" exists for methane, how about CO2?

But then, the one-world global-governance lefties would never want to find a 'fix', if such a fix was actually needed.

From the NY Slimes...

Can We Really Scrub Carbon Dioxide From the Atmosphere?

Livia Albeck-Ripka, Henry Fountain and Lisa Friedman
Feb. 28, 2018

Removing carbon dioxide that is already in the air is seen as a potential way to combat global warming. There are various approaches, lumped together as “negative emissions technologies” to distinguish them from technologies that reduce or eliminate emissions from power plants and other sources.

Lots more at link...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/climate/remove-co2-from-air.html

4 posted on 12/02/2018 1:16:02 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Odd - usually the prevailing winds move west to east; east to west must be due to Trumps effect on the weather causing gullible warming.


5 posted on 12/02/2018 1:21:39 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

6 posted on 12/02/2018 1:22:18 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Remember when the scientists were stunned when the good bugs ate the bad bugs after the Gulf Spill at a phenominal rate.

This is the same thing.

The earth is self balancing. Man is just a pain in the butt.

And the control of the universe is far beyond any power of man.

Just look at the satellites we put up. We marvel at our ability. But they're nuts and bolts. Nothing living.

Then gaze at the stars, the moon and the sun....and we're mesmerized by their magic.

We're the benefactors of its' workings.

8 posted on 12/02/2018 1:43:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ETL

Ping


9 posted on 12/02/2018 2:04:42 PM PST by Parmy
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Short version:

Scientists find previously unknown natural mechanism of atmospheric “cleansing” of so-called “greenhouse gasses” from the atmosphere which proves the Greenhouse Theory has been based on false premises.


11 posted on 12/02/2018 2:56:14 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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LOL — What is this computer visual “model” hiding in the southeastern quadrant of the US?


13 posted on 12/02/2018 3:29:40 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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Did anyone else notice that God (ok...Nature if you insist) is sooo much smarter than humanity’s collective human brain?


15 posted on 12/02/2018 3:42:02 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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Of course this was known and accounted for by all the computer models we are unable to criticize because we are “deniers”. I do not deny climate change. I deny pseudoscience can predict climate change. Every model, to be valid, must now be adjusted to reflect this new information. Otherwise this is all a hoax and the are all frauds.
16 posted on 12/02/2018 4:12:59 PM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction.)
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Start putting that chit in Aqua Net and our Grandmas can Save Da Erf! :)


18 posted on 12/02/2018 6:03:39 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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