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Vanity: Why Does Deep State/MSM Want us to Hate Saudi Arabia?
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Posted on 11/17/2018 1:16:54 AM PST by TigerClaws

Saudis have always run a brutal dictatorship. We needed the oil. They owned the Bushes. We looked the other way. Obama bowed before them literally.

We look the other way with China, which is an even more brutal dictatorship (in terms of murdering their own citizens).

Why is the CIA leaking stories to CNN about Jamal Khashoggi's murder?

Why is the MSM running story after story about this to shape American popular opinion?

I'm confused why they want me to care.

Please fill me in on the real explanation. Thanks.


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To: Delta 21

But I havent needed any more of a reason to bomb Medina and Mecca since 9-11-01.

Reporters get their panties in a wad over one of their own getting chop-sawwed into itsy bitsy pieces?

TFB


61 posted on 11/17/2018 5:45:58 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: hattend

See what my other hand is doing?


62 posted on 11/17/2018 5:49:00 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: TigerClaws

Saudi Arabia is a country named after the ruling family. And the founding of Islam. Islamists hated the ruling family. The two came to heads a few generations ago, when Wahabbism reared its head. Wahabbism is the worst form of Islam, revolving around sharia law.

So they made a deal: Wahabbists can spread their backwards brand of islam outside the country, but not inside. It is an uneasy truce. Leave the ruling Saudi structure alone; spread your 7th century lunacy elsewhere around the world.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the head of the Wahabbist movement. CAIR, etc., reports to them. The Muslim Brotherhood established beachheads around the world, including the US, to spread sharia law and its philosophy of Wahabbism.

Tons of cash is behind the Muslim Brotherhood, to build mosques and schools, fund elections, wage lawfare, etc. And they embedded people in power structures, such as John Brennan and Valjar, and their sycophants like Ben Roades and the Washington Post. Lots of the money came via Prince AlWaleed and buddies.

MBS got with Jared Kushner and together they decided to stop the spread. AlWaleed and buds were arrested, wealth confiscated, and read the riot act. Funding for the Muslim Brotherhood is drying up. This drives the Wahabbists nuts, in the US and elsewhere. So MBS (and Kushner) must be stopped.

Khashoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood guy, against MBS.

Leaks are from Brennan and team still embedded.


63 posted on 11/17/2018 5:52:24 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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To: TigerClaws
Trump is pushing the Saudis on reform.

Bin Sultan is cooperating and attempting to purge Obama and Bush era guys who have corrupted our political system and who support radical Islam and al Qaeda from power and influence

Our Saudi corrupted CIA wants to see Bin Sultan fail

64 posted on 11/17/2018 6:07:12 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: TigerClaws

“Mohammed has travelled extensively around the world, meeting with politicians, business leaders and celebrities. In June 2016, he travelled to Silicon Valley and met key people in the US high tech industry, including Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg.

In early 2018 Prince Mohammed visited the United States, where he met with many politicians, business people and Hollywood stars, including President Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Michael Bloomberg, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Oprah Winfrey, Rupert Murdoch, Richard Branson, Mayor Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles, Michael Douglas, Morgan Freeman and Dwayne Johnson”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_bin_Salman


65 posted on 11/17/2018 6:28:35 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables; All

Thank you to all who responded.

Basket’s response is one of several accurate assessments.


66 posted on 11/17/2018 6:36:59 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Oil. We’re not supposed to have privately owned vehicles. We’re supposed to take the bus.


67 posted on 11/17/2018 6:57:37 AM PST by GingisK
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To: TigerClaws
Why is the CIA leaking stories to CNN about Jamal Khashoggi's murder?

My question is: Why is President Trump going along?

I personally don't care, and my guess is that the large majority of the American Public doesn't care. Perhaps he is using it as leverage?

68 posted on 11/17/2018 7:39:24 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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To: TigerClaws

familyop - “It’s President Trump’s Agency now.” The Deep State still owns the intel community and the Deep State media. This situation is very complex but I know when I smell a fish they are up to something. Can the Saudis invite Jim Acosta to their embassy to give him an award or something?


69 posted on 11/17/2018 8:02:24 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: TigerClaws
I'm confused why they want me to care.

Less than 24 hrs after the rumors and reported disappearance and alleged murder, the Washington press were scream at Trump, 'MR. PRESIDENT! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE MURDER OF KHASHOGGI?

This is another attack on Trump. They, the Democratic Media Complex and the Deep State, want to make Trump look weak and bad.

They want him to make decisions based on rumors they feed him.

Maybe they believe the Saudis can bring down the Trump administration when nothing else has worked.

If they can get Trump to go after the Saudis the Saudis will retaliate economically and with oil crashing the economy.

Trump is then blamed for everything after that.

70 posted on 11/17/2018 8:34:04 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“My question is: Why is President Trump going along?”

He isn’t. He’s fully behind Kushner and MBS, to the extent allowed by politics. The CIA “leak” is not from Gina. It’s from Brennan and crew, still trying to stop the elimination of the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey is Muslim Brotherhood as well.

MBS is a direct threat to them. Hope he survives.


71 posted on 11/17/2018 8:56:21 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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To: TigerClaws

Imagine this happened under Obama. There would be zero coverage. They spin everything in a way to make Trump look bad.


72 posted on 11/17/2018 9:51:11 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Exactly.

Trump is forced to denounce it.

Some meaningless sanctions. Saudi fall guys.

Deep State had to directly link MBS.

Nobody in America cares about this story. At all. But it’s in the media every day.


73 posted on 11/17/2018 9:54:36 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks. It is complicated. But MBS and Jared may well change that godforsaken corner of the world. The Muslim Brotherhood is taking hits, and Egypt started it, thank God. An entire realignment may happen.

Meanwhile, here in the US, the Muslim Brotherhood needs more exposure, and elimination. Roots and all.


74 posted on 11/17/2018 10:39:14 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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To: TigerClaws

IMO it is all about IRAN. Take your pick between the Saudis and Iran. Th US withdrawing from The Iran treaty is a great big sore point with the UN and the European Union. I’ll take the Saudis over Iran any day of the week. In the mideast power play you have to pick one or the other.


75 posted on 11/17/2018 5:30:44 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: TigerClaws

There is a certain conspiracy theory out there which offers a plausible explanation, but it can’t be named here.

The relevant part of it is, certain powerful entities were laundering money through Saudi accounts so the flow of cash would be lost in a torrent of a wealthy nation state, and they were receiving financial and other help from the Kingdom in their activities, in a sort of business arrangement. Back when that was in effect, the lowly employees of these powerful entities, like Bush would kiss Saudi ass and cover for them in the country after 9/11, and Obama would kiss their rings and bow, and the media, which was also owned by these entities, would fall in line as well and not make too much noise.

Trump, who these entities tried to take out with the FISA stuff, and some patriots in intelligence, made a deal with Crown Prince Salman to have him take over and eliminate the influence of the old guard Saudis who were a part of the old ring of powerful entities. Salman took their power in a massive purge of corruption in the Kingdom, and now the powerful entities, that still control our media are on the attack, trying to regain their money laundering hub and its financial assistance.

The theory fits the evidence as good as anything I have seen. Plus, it generates such weird passions, even on this site, I tend to think it at least should be watched with an open mind.


76 posted on 11/17/2018 11:29:30 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Because the Deep State doesn't work for us, it wants to rule us, and the Partisan Media Shills do what they're told.

77 posted on 11/18/2018 7:49:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, Russia's Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Tayyip Erdogan meet in Sochi, Russia November 22, 2017. (photo credit: SPUTNIK/MIKHAIL METZEL/KREMLIN VIA REUTERS)

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78 posted on 11/18/2018 7:51:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t know, but I know I don’t like Saudi Arabia because they are a fundamentalist Islamic state under Sharia law, and if you practice Christianity there, they will put you in jail.

https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/saudi-arabia-sentences-men-prison-lashings-role-conversion.html


79 posted on 11/19/2018 10:49:11 AM PST by Hilda
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To: TigerClaws

The Saudis are an important ally against Iran and in the War on Terror.

Trump has to balance the lives of all Americans against the death of a Saudi citizen, who was actually hobnobbing with the Muslim Brotherhood.


80 posted on 11/21/2018 9:28:07 AM PST by Innovative
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