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The U-864 holds the distinction of being the only submarine officially sunk submerged by another submerged submarine. She was transporting mercury and plans/parts for jet fighters to Japan.
1 posted on 10/12/2018 9:31:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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Wow. Very interesting fact. Would have not thought that to be the case. Thank you.


2 posted on 10/12/2018 9:34:26 AM PDT by RatRipper (The Democrat Party is the party of liars, swindlers, cheats and unbridled immorality.)
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'underwater Chernobyl'

What a ridiculous term.

The Nazis did have a nuclear program. But this sub had nothing to do with that. There is no uranium here. There is no radiation concern here. They really should have found a better catchphrase.

3 posted on 10/12/2018 9:36:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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Saw a fascinating documentary once describing how the British submarine used some early sound detection technology to predict the German U-boat’s zig-zag pattern, and then, doing a quick calculation, fired its torpedo so that it would run into the U-boat as it, in effect, “turned into it” ... it was quite an accomplishment in the early days of sonar technology ...


4 posted on 10/12/2018 9:37:01 AM PDT by Simon Foxx
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And the ocean currents will never move this fill?

And the fill will prevent the mercury from migrating?

And all the silt stirred up in this process will settle back exactly where it came from?

Better to pay too much the first time, than doing it twice.


5 posted on 10/12/2018 9:41:45 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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I read where those U-Boats used mercury as ballast and helped the boat to submerge faster.


6 posted on 10/12/2018 9:45:02 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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The article was quite unclear. I wondered if U-864 was traveling on the surface, but it was not.


10 posted on 10/12/2018 10:10:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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Little puddles of Mercury can be found in many gold bearing creeks in the western US. Early prospectors used it to capture fine gold from the creek bed gravels and they weren’t very careful about recovering any that spilled. If you leave it alone there is very little danger. If you start messing with it you will create problems. LEAVE IT ALONE!


11 posted on 10/12/2018 10:21:03 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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If the canisters of mercury are still intact I would salvage them before they leak and become an environment problem.

They're eventually going to start leaking.

12 posted on 10/12/2018 10:24:31 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Funny that they should make the Chernobyl comparison when there were no nuclear materials involved. It’s also funny that we have two REAL “underwater Chernobyls” in our oceans and fail to draw the right conclusions. The US’s Thresher and the Soviet’s Kursk are both nuclear powered subs sitting on the sea floor causing no problems at all. Nuclear power plants store fuel rods safely in a mere 15 feet of water. Putting nuclear waste under several miles of sea water is safer (and much, much cheaper) than burying them in salt mines, yet no on proposes that solution (except, so far as I know, me).


13 posted on 10/12/2018 10:28:46 AM PDT by Stirner
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headed for Japan carrying jet parts

Jet parts?

14 posted on 10/12/2018 10:38:35 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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1,800 canisters of toxic mercury

Is mercury heavier than sea water?

15 posted on 10/12/2018 10:39:59 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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There is a very interesting video on YouTube about the sinking of the sub.


19 posted on 10/12/2018 10:47:06 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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In 1724, two Spanish Galleons, the Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and the Conde de Tolosa, sank near the Dominican Republic. Their cargo was 300 tons of mercury and 100 bronze cannon.

No one seems to panic over them.


20 posted on 10/12/2018 11:00:18 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Nothing to worry about here... The U.S. can loan the EPA to whomever wants to retrieve the mercury... Their splendid record, as evidenced by a certain formerly-viable creek, will assure the world of an expert cleanup...

snicker...

28 posted on 10/12/2018 1:00:01 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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A couple of weeks ago I watched on a history channel(?) the story of the saga that was the sinking of U-864. It was a very detailed video.
The following link, also covers the event but is not the one I watched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-0XY0DROk
The 25 YO Brit. was a sharp dude, firing 4 torpedos and got lucky, when the German turned into the fourth.


29 posted on 10/12/2018 1:16:43 PM PDT by GOYAKLA
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U-234 contained the Nazi gifts to Japan of ~1200 lbs of uranium oxide as well as a new-in-the-box (literally) ME-262. She never reached Japan and was surrendered in obedience to orders from Dönitz a couple of week’s after Hitler’s suicide.


31 posted on 10/12/2018 5:44:23 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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