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Box Office: 'Captain Marvel' Is Being Set Up To Fail
Forbes ^ | September 25, 2018 | Scott Mendelson

Posted on 09/25/2018 11:52:23 AM PDT by EdnaMode

[Snip] Captain Marvel could be another $1 billion+ worldwide grosser. However, that’s not remotely a guarantee at this premature juncture. It may not even match the domestic ($413 million) and worldwide ($821m) totals of Wonder Woman. Unless Marvel and Walt Disney went uncharacteristically over budget, it won’t have to. Should Captain Marvel find itself on the defensive when it “only” earns about what Ant-Man and the Wasp ($621m) pulled in?

Wonder Woman benefited from rave reviews and a narrative of Gal Gadot’s female superhero “saving” the DCEU after the critically-slammed Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. It offered a solo female director (Patty Jenkins) showing that women could make mega-budget action blockbusters that were at least as good as the male-directed competition. It had the good fortune to open after the relatively underwhelming King Arthur, Alien: Covenant and Pirates of the Caribbean 5 and before the relatively underwhelming The Mummy, Cars 3 and Transformers: The Last Knight. It slew all relevant competition right up until Illumination’s Despicable Me 3 and Marvel and Sony’s Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Captain Marvel will have to contend with potentially heavier competition. No, I don’t think The LEGO Movie 2 or X-Men: Dark Phoenix will pull a Black Panther and steamroll the competition well into April. The Brie Larson superhero flick opens right between DreamWorks Animation’s How to Train Your Dragon 3 and Jordan Peele’s Us while having just three weeks before Walt Disney’s own Tim Burton-directed Dumbo movie. It has a month before DC Films’ Shazam, but a month should be enough time to foretell the film’s fate. Point being, if the February and March flicks are good then Captain Marvel becomes less of an event.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Chit/Chat; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: brielarson; captainmarvel; hollywood; marvel
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To: Skywise

Disney needs to die faster. They have become an evil twisted thing, promoting sickness and insanity.


41 posted on 09/25/2018 2:04:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: be-baw
The movie will do well. It ties in with Avengers 3 and 4 and introduces a character that will likely have significant impact in the resolution of Infinity Wars.

Disagree. The main demographic for such movies is young boys and young men. They cannot live vicariously through the exploits of some "Mary Sue" Uber-Female-Warrior-Princess.

They have as much affinity for such a person as they do for a male ballerina.

If it does anything more than flop, it will be due solely to the popularity of Marvel's other successful franchises.

42 posted on 09/25/2018 2:08:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EdnaMode

They made money on Guardians of the Galaxy, one of the most below the fold only hard core comic nerds have even heard of the title and most of them don’t like it properties in the Marvel Universe. Captain Marvel will be fine. And Brie looks a lot like Carol Danvers, and she’s a good actress, not a bad pick.


43 posted on 09/25/2018 2:13:31 PM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“The main demographic for such movies is young boys and young men. “

That is undoubtedly true but, as to whether or not the movie does well, define well. It certainly won’t get Black Panther, Avengers or Iron Man numbers. To me doing well would be to exceed the box office Wonder Woman got. That would be considered a hit.


44 posted on 09/25/2018 2:37:52 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Captain Marvelous got "WOKE".

Destined to fail like The Last Jedi, the new Ghostbusters, Atomic Blonde, Oceans 8, and Battlefield V,

PC Pink, SJW, women's lib, hate white men garbage is always a loosing proposition.

Captain "Marvelous" deserves to fail.

45 posted on 09/25/2018 2:49:05 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: StoneRainbow68
tentpole female character, but she’s just not compelling enough

At one point, I thought they were talking about a stand-alone movie with Black Widow. What happened to that?

46 posted on 09/25/2018 3:11:54 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: EdnaMode

So will Isis get a reboot?


47 posted on 09/25/2018 3:35:24 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Mar-Vell: Kree warrior on Earth, introduced 1967.
Carol Danvers, USAF pilot, introduced 1968.
Explosion fuses Mar-Vell’s DNA with Danvers, producing Ms. Marvel, introduced 1977 (?).
There have been several with the moniker, including another female.
Carol Danvers took the title in 2012, in honor of Mar-Vell, at Captain America’s urging.
(I used to collect. I had original Captain Marvel #1, and Ms. Marvel #1. This is from memory.)


48 posted on 09/25/2018 4:28:37 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: EdnaMode

Brie Larson is indeed poorly cast.

I strongly disagree, however, with this prediction.

Captain Marvel is the immediate segue into Avengers IV [Untitled], the culmination of an elaborate MCU narrative: 10+ years, 20+ films.

There is no way, short of another great depression, that CM will not be an enormous blockbuster. Fan Boys will show up multiple times just to see the post-credit teaser to Avengers versus Thanos II - which features Captain Marvel herself!

All that does not even take into account the big screen returns of Nick Fury and Phil Coulson. Blockbuster - period. Even without the dubious PC/SJW draw for millenials.

Captain Marvel 2/II/Two, however, after Phase Four commences, presumably without Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, or Hulk: That, I predict, is when tbe MCU might start losing box office clout.


49 posted on 09/25/2018 4:44:25 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

I posted only on Marvel Comics before.

Fawcett had an unrelated, Golden Age, character (now Shazam, whose movie is coming out about the same time).

That Captain Marvel was an obvious semi-ripoff of NPP’s (DC’s) Superman. CM outsold SM. Proto-DC sued Fawcett and won.

The name, Captain Marvel, went into limbo. Marvel Comics resurrected it, and copyrighted it. When DC Comics decided to buy and resurrect their former rival character, they opted for the name Shazam.


50 posted on 09/25/2018 4:53:39 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

My kind of Captain Marvel...machine-gunning bad guys in the back; hauling an elevator car back up the shaft, then pitching the men inside off the roof to their doom...good times!


51 posted on 09/25/2018 5:31:19 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: who knows what evil?

I came across that thing by accident. I had been watching old Dick Tracy serials from the 1940’s and saw the Captain Marvel serial. It was about 3.5 hours long and I decided to watch it.

I got a real kick out of it, of course the special effects were primitive, reminded me of watching early Dr. Who stuff, but it was all in good fun.

I love watching 1930’s and 40’s movies, the men look like men and the women are real women, nothing fake about those gals and they were pretty good actress’ also for B and C types.


52 posted on 09/25/2018 5:53:50 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: DiogenesLamp

This female agrees with you. Ironically they make these female characters more manly and uber everything than the male heroes they supposedly disdain!


53 posted on 09/25/2018 6:05:00 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Ironically they make these female characters more manly and uber everything than the male heroes they supposedly disdain!

Funny that. If masculine traits are so bad, why do so many (butch) lesbians want to copy them?

I guess they are only bad when men have them. It's all part of the big culture war of turning normal and natural into abnormal and bizarre.

54 posted on 09/25/2018 8:04:00 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: wally_bert
Wild Wild West for my reality fix.

The old series?

Now there are two guys that NO ONE ever thought were secretly gay.

55 posted on 09/26/2018 5:44:42 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
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To: dead

56 posted on 09/26/2018 5:52:35 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The "Blue Wave" is a lie.)
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To: DungeonMaster

Conrad and Martin always had pretty ladies around.

Jim had a fair amount of revolvers lost or confiscated by the baddies.


57 posted on 09/26/2018 7:14:49 AM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

There is a long Green Hornet serial and one called The Spider I think on YT.

Not bad for their time.


58 posted on 09/26/2018 7:16:14 AM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: wally_bert

Thanks I might watch that. Love the radio series on Sirius.


59 posted on 09/26/2018 7:28:13 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

It’s campy and quirky but entertainment.

The OTR shows aren’t bad at all.


60 posted on 09/26/2018 8:02:12 AM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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