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GRUESOME NSFW VIDEO: FATHER, SON SHOOT BAT-WIELDING NEIGHBOR DURING HEATED SHOWDOWN
infowars.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 20, 2018 | Abilene Police/Star-Telegram

Posted on 09/20/2018 6:15:29 PM PDT by papertyger

A Texas father-son duo are charged with murder after a dispute with a neighbor over a mattress turned deadly, shocking video shot by the deceased man’s wife appears to show. Warning – Graphic Footage: Viewer discretion strongly advised

In video of the Sept. 1 incident released Wednesday, Kara Box captured her husband Aaron Howard arguing over trash in their Abilene alleyway with next-door neighbors John Miller, 67, and his son Michael Miller, 31. “We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box commented on the video, according to The Star-Telegram. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”

Box says the Millers grabbed the mattress out of the dumpster and threw it on Howard’s property, sparking a shouting match between the neighbors. “Michael Miller who lives with his father ran went inside their home and got a shotgun,” The Telegram wrote in a Sept. 2 article following the incident. “Someone went into Howard’s home and retrieved a baseball bat.” The showdown ended with Howard shot after he stepped forward following a threat from Miller, who warned, “If you come within 3 feet of me, I’m going to kill you.” The Millers were arrested later that day. The Telegram reports they have since posted a $25,000 bail.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 1stdegreemurder; aaronhoward; abilene; alley; banglist; box; donotremovetags; goobers; howard; infowars; johnmiller; kansas; karabox; mattress; mattresswars; michaelmiller; miller; texas
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To: papertyger

sickening. They need to spend the rest of their days in jail.


61 posted on 09/20/2018 7:07:14 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: DiogenesLamp

If his wife had been smart, she would have tried to get her husband to calm down instead of just videoing it.


62 posted on 09/20/2018 7:07:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Democratic socialism is when the majority of people vote to steal your property.)
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To: PAR35

Four shots at least two were from the 12 ga.


63 posted on 09/20/2018 7:10:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
If one handles bedbug infested stuff, they will readily climb on you and then you take them home.

FYI, the box spring and bed frame will be worse.

64 posted on 09/20/2018 7:13:53 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You don’t think the decedent deserves any responsibility for antagonizing and threatening to kill them?


65 posted on 09/20/2018 7:18:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You are right. She should have told him that she didn't want him messing with people who had guns.

He was probably trying to show her how brave he was, and had she not been there, he might have done the more sensible thing and left.

66 posted on 09/20/2018 7:20:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Deaf Smith

I guess I missed the part where they mentioned the mattress was infected with bed bugs. I think the objection was over space in the dumpster though.


67 posted on 09/20/2018 7:21:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: papertyger; DiogenesLamp

"...arbiter of definitions..."


Agreed. Lots of techniques to contemplate here and this video truly illustrates the unpredictability that is real life.
To my mind the fact Mr. Orange Shirt is a spittle-foaming and screaming man in the face of drawn guns points to his instability.
They would almost have had to back-up with guns drawn...and hope the slow-speed retreat didn’t encourage Mr. Orange Shirt to attack.


68 posted on 09/20/2018 7:22:16 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: papertyger

Known bully and criminal shot by people who called the cops many times. Probably were told by cops to shoot him next time they were threatened. That’s my guesss. Disclaimer- I’m a known idiot that jumps to conclusions.


69 posted on 09/20/2018 7:24:38 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Kartographer

I think one problem they will have is that at least one of the fout shots were after he was down and on the ground.


70 posted on 09/20/2018 7:26:50 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Was not missed.

All furniture and bedding you see out on the curb is bedbug. The situation is that bad.

Abilene,TX has TV commercials for bedbug services.

In 2017, DFW was in top ten for bedbugs in the US

71 posted on 09/20/2018 7:31:13 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Lazamataz
Yes, and then when their wives get home tell them all about what a couple of bad-asses they are...

Everyone's happy, and alive.

72 posted on 09/20/2018 7:33:40 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Deaf Smith

Bring back DDT.


73 posted on 09/20/2018 7:36:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: papertyger

Agreed. How are these two out on bail? Let alone $25k??


74 posted on 09/20/2018 7:39:24 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: blueunicorn6

I agree. I don’t understand how this man and his wife are arguing with 2 armed men...


75 posted on 09/20/2018 7:40:48 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: papertyger
Looked like mutual combat in a public right-of-way (the alley) to me.

The Texas "Castle Doctrine" will not apply.

"Self-defense" will not apply.

The shooters appeared to have provoked the incident, thus losing the presumption of innocence needed for a self-defense claim.

The decedent was an absolute fool to repeatedly threaten to kill two armed men, and lunge at them, as a response to the situation.

The Texas equivalent to a charge of voluntary manslaughter would seem to be appropriate. Might be garnished with an additional charge of assault with a deadly weapon (against the wife, when they ordered her at gunpoint to "get on the ground").

Could go either way before a jury.

76 posted on 09/20/2018 7:41:48 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Apparently, the US is in the minority of countries that use DDT.

Three producers/exporters: China, India and N Korea.

77 posted on 09/20/2018 7:44:56 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: kaehurowing

So people don’t commit gruesome murders in other countries?


78 posted on 09/20/2018 7:46:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Science is a method, not a belief system.)
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To: Deaf Smith

My GF is currently on a five day road trip with her airman son returning to his base. I told her to pay the extra money and stay in the most expensive hotels they can find along the highway to avoid bed bugs.

Yesterday she called and said “you got us scared to death every time we get an itch”.


79 posted on 09/20/2018 7:57:00 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Consensus isn't science.)
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To: ifinnegan

I don’t see it as entertainment in any way. I see it as informative since likely so many FReepers have firearms.

This will turn out to be interesting for several reasons, Texas is a state that gives a lot of leeway to protecting life and property so will be interesting what happens legally. Many legal issues can be brought into this, which may change the way shootings that may or not turn out to be ruled self defense.

In order to really try to understand the true situation it is good to have video to watch if possible. This video shows demeanor of the people and that can be important in a shooting defense.

No one has to go watch that video, that is a choice.


80 posted on 09/20/2018 7:57:05 PM PDT by Tammy8
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