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The Danger of "Q" - Several Reasons
Twitter ^ | September 14, 2018 | Carpe Donktum

Posted on 09/14/2018 8:53:50 PM PDT by JME_FAN

Why is QAnon a danger to the Trump Presidency? Here are six well-reasoned points, provided by the meme blogger known as Carpe Donktum ...

1. With introduction of the Secret Plan and the "Kabuki Theater" that is required to believe in the plan, Q has placed himself in a position to "interpret" Trump. This undermines the power of the President's words and allows Q to change the message.

2. The net effect of "The plan" is a calming effect on MAGA people who SHOULD BE mad as hell about the lack of support the President is getting from his AG. It also numbs many to legitimate danger that the Mueller Investigation poses, especially if November goes poorly for MAGA

3. Q at it's very core lies about who he/it is, we do not know or understand the motives for this lie. Therefore we cannot predict how the lie could evolve and where the liar at the center of it might lead his followers.

4. Q has red pilled many about certain information that was already known to many of us. That's good. What is not good however is the rampant and reckless conspiracy theories that have been spawned after people with a little bit of knowledge but not much judgement, run with it.

5. Q has brought out the very worst in some it's followers, prompting them to attack any non-believers viciously. It has fed paranoia that many people that have played a vital role in maga have been deep state plants, simply because they do not believe Q is real.

6. Q has given hope to those who do not yet deserve it. Q says, trust the plan, watch the show, it's all taken care of. There is no hope without hard work and sacrifice. We need every single person to be on the front line fighting, not sitting back waiting for a savior.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: anontrash; danger; donktum; hoax; q; qanon; qooks; qwacks
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You just don’t “get it”. Squabbling for over a year of whether Sessions is “the answer”. I have been on FR threads every day for the past 5 years. I was working on(collecting info) several of the issues which are currently in play. Then Q comes along in Oct.

I do not disbelieve in the Q Theory. I do not like the fall back position that Everyone is there to learn for later use. Everything Q says is already known. Q is stringing everyone along. The 1.3 Trillion Sealed Indictments are a joke. The non arrest of many DS Players is humiliatingly stupid. There has to be an end game. The fact that someone would question any part, or all, of Q’s premis is more interesting. I posted that I am dismayed by the lack of arrests. Had Freepers telling me to kill myself and claiming I am Antifa. I don’t need to justify myself to 70+ year old morons who wouldn’t know a crime if it bit them in the ass. The followers need to change there plans. Reading 7 or 8 posts of a cut and paste Q post is just silly. So is the continous circle jerks around non provable theories. Have fun with your Q friends. Most Freepers don’t really care.


281 posted on 09/15/2018 8:36:14 AM PDT by DrDude (The Plan has been postponed! We need time to make more excuses.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Agreed. We will know when all becomes clear.


282 posted on 09/15/2018 8:47:14 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
...Q is military intelligence that was likely formed after Rodgers visited Trump and gave him NSA information on what was going on...

Pure conjecture on your part.

283 posted on 09/15/2018 9:16:03 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jjotto
Couple of things: First, the deep state theory is not that they are taking action against themselves. It's that they are warning other deep-staters through "Q". Think of Q as saying "Jaques has a long mustache" to the resistance. Q is pretending to be a Trump supporter and using Trump based boards and media to spread a warning to deep-state allies. "Hey guys, they are coming for us." Now, again, I don't buy that. It would be easier to just do that by going to them. But then again, it would take a LONG time.

As far as Sessions goes, he only recused himself from Trump related-Russia stuff. Here is his statement: “Having concluded those meetings today, I have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States." He didn't recuse himself from all the other things...only things related to the campaign. What Q is speaking about is totally outside of the scope of his recusal.

Finally-The military courts: I haven't followed this too much on the Q threads. BUT...I have seen it some of the discussion on it. I do not believe that these discussions are correct. American citizens, even tried for treason, are not (I believe) going to be tried by military tribunals and held at Gitmo...unless they are currently in the military. Kawakita v. United States was a treason case and it was tried in civilian court. Even the Rosenbergs were not tried by a military tribunal (even though it was espionage not treason). I cannot see Hillary, Bill, Holder, or any of the others being put in Gitmo and tried before military courts (as some Q threads suggest or state outright) being tried in this way. It would cause a constitutional crisis in this country. I, for one, would have a severe problem with it. American citizens that are not in the military, have constitutional rights. These Q threads seem to indicate they will lose some of that. If these delusions are actual reality, we will see chaos.

284 posted on 09/15/2018 9:18:59 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: bagster
When I stop and think about it, Windy, YOU'RE an anonymous internet poster. Why should I believe you? Are you a HOAX or a Larp?

Heh... Unlike with Q, you can talk to members of this forum who know me in real life. One of them is the site owner. You can also click on my profile and see my real face.

Can anyone here vouch for you? Have you ever published your mug on Free Republic?

If not, you're more likely to be a LARP than I am ;-)

285 posted on 09/15/2018 9:22:38 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: bagster

Look, I would enjoy a respectable conversation. But seem to be incapable of that.

Seems to me you are going to enjoy 8chan. Fag.


286 posted on 09/15/2018 9:32:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bagster
I will pray for you, my child. Please, Q. Take the motes from my brother's eyes. Amen.

Aw.... That is so kind of you, but really, I'm an irredeemable heretic, and can't be saved.

No, I'm destined to wander the endless wilds of Free Republic, scavenging the scattered fruits of information all on my own.

Weep for me.

287 posted on 09/15/2018 9:37:02 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: JME_FAN

Is Q real? Well obviously it is a real entity(ies) posting as Q... that said, I don’t pay any attention to it and don’t find it as egregious as you and Carpe do. I just hope it doesnt mean people are thinking they should sit home and not vote. FYI: I get why large twitter personalities are “debunking” Q... it cuts into THEIR influence. Whoever Q is, they aren’t spilling the beans to Posobic or any other twitter influencer. I hope no one is naieve enough to believe that, even if Posobic is dumb enough to not understand that. Fun fact, he’s told a few people he was asked to personally join Q, but declined lololololol


288 posted on 09/15/2018 9:49:08 AM PDT by Katya
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To: JME_FAN

Is Q real? Well obviously it is a real entity(ies) posting as Q... that said, I don’t pay any attention to it and don’t find it as egregious as you and Carpe do. I just hope it doesnt mean people are thinking they should sit home and not vote. FYI: I get why large twitter personalities are “debunking” Q... it cuts into THEIR influence. Whoever Q is, they aren’t spilling the beans to Posobic or any other twitter influencer. I hope no one is naieve enough to believe that, even if Posobic is dumb enough to not understand that. Fun fact, he’s told a few people he was asked to personally join Q, but declined lololololol


289 posted on 09/15/2018 9:49:10 AM PDT by Katya
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To: JME_FAN

There’s a new group of at least 119 Intelligence Community professionals that are creating a website for the President as a repository of information about crimes that have occurred over the last decade or so.

They believe in Q, and like what Q is doing. Q is real and behind Trump 100%.

https://www.reportforthepresident.org/


290 posted on 09/15/2018 9:55:36 AM PDT by Vic S
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To: bagster
I don't think you understand the reality that no one thinks of you as the chief of language or gives a shit about your troll-farm standards. Live with it.
291 posted on 09/15/2018 9:57:43 AM PDT by pt17
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To: roving

Some of those first posts throw me a bit too. Some times they are misinterpretations. Many things were misinterpreted by some of the anons. Understanding is a revolving process. Also Q said right in the beginning that there would be some disinformation. Part of Q is to toy with the enemy and cause them to make mistakes. Most of the toying these days seems to be more about taunting than misinformation.

Yet I know what you are saying though because I sometimes have had the same doubts as you for some of the same reasons.

But the thing is there is so much that has panned out. That is worth noting too. And one thing that can’t be denied are the tons of proofs that Trump is in on it. I have to admit that those proofs are a major reason why I have faith that Q is real. I would love to poke holes in those proofs, but they are just too good. You could even say that they are extreme. Like the white house Easter egg roll speech where trump says “tip top” after being asked to do so by an anon. Trump makes a big deal about it in the speech.(start at :40)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0o2KDmtI78

After that it becomes more about having faith in Trump who made the promise to drain the swamp. Remember the “our nation” Trump speech that Q has refereed to many times(link below). I guess that is a lot of faith to put in Trump. But I also know that he is the only hope that we have. If Trump fails then there won’t be another chance.

Mar 4 2018 01:22:06 (EST)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ

Listen carefully.
TRUST.
WE are FIGHTING for YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Q


292 posted on 09/15/2018 10:19:15 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Reily

“To accept the truth of Q is by default accepting the Rat idea that Trump is an out-of-control incompetent in the WH and needs to go.”

WRONG.

Q is necessary because the media are a bunch of bought and paid for deep state cabal propagandists that HATE flyover country and would love nothing more than to see us all dead. None of them including Fox are trustworthy. We are having to investigate things ourselves and the information aka breadcrumbs give valuable news the media is trying to hide. Not reporting news is just as much propaganda as lying and making stuff up. The anti Q shills just don’t seem to like the information that is being exposed. Doesn’t Q always say, “watch who screams the loudest”? Same goes on places like FR.


293 posted on 09/15/2018 10:24:20 AM PDT by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: nopardons

So “what I posted about you lot” is sensible English.

And

“You lot know less about politics” is proper.

I can’t fix the first one because it is complete babble, but I can fix the second one.

“You lot know less about politics”. Should be:

You know a lot less about politics.

If it is really true that you can read what you wrote, and then see nothing wrong with it; then that tells me more than I need to know.


294 posted on 09/15/2018 10:30:15 AM PDT by Revel
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So is that a yes?


295 posted on 09/15/2018 10:30:41 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: bagster

“when it turns out to be two low level staffers in the White House Press team who get fired and arrested for doing what they’re doing.”

The person that posted that must also think that Trump is an incompetent idiot who would let such a thing happen for almost a year.


296 posted on 09/15/2018 10:35:32 AM PDT by Revel
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To: JME_FAN

Holy smokes. After reading through about half of this thread, it’s become patently obvious that these Q-kooks are wandering into where the Lyndon LaRouche/Flat Earth/Man-Didn’t-Land-on-the-Moon-types disappeared to. You people are completely-off-the-rails crazy.

I’m not one on Free Republic to disparage, insult, or get into nasty back-and-forth rows with members, but jeez, guys, come down off of the trapeze! Why is this still continuing on this site?


297 posted on 09/15/2018 10:39:24 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: DrDude
Everything Q says is already known.

Sure it is, DrFhp

Bagster


298 posted on 09/15/2018 10:53:08 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: JME_FAN
Why do you care? Who are you to decide what people search and research. Who sent you on this great commission?

Your response

Why do you respond? Who sent you here to be a pest? Oh, let me guess ... ‘Twas the Extremely Extreme Drama “Q”ueen!

I find 'control freaks', oh, very, 'liberal'. I do not have the time to 'invest' in Q. However, it was on a 'Q' thread I learned the fake in Rome preaches 'Jesus' in a hall dedicated to the 'Serpent'... cannot get much more 'fake' than that.

How about you follow his order ... 'pray and stay silent'!!!

299 posted on 09/15/2018 10:53:16 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: DrDude
I don’t need to justify myself to 70+ year old morons

Respect your elders, ageist.

...who wouldn't’t know a crime if it bit them in the ass.

Not true. I'd know a crime if it bit me in the ass.

Check this out. I heard (from Q) that when you were born, your father ran screaming from the delivery room and was arrested for leaving the scene of an accident.

BOOM

Bagster


300 posted on 09/15/2018 10:57:54 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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