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Elon Musk Warns We're Living Through The "Dumbest Experiment in Human History" - (Simulation)
Science Alert ^ | September 8, 2018 | Fiona MacDonald

Posted on 09/12/2018 12:18:29 PM PDT by re_tail20

Elon Musk is no stranger to making headlines with his comments. But he might have just recorded one of his most quotable interviews ever.

In a 2.5-hour candid interview with comedian Joe Rogan for "The Joe Rogan Experience", Musk talks about why we're likely living in a simulation, how flamethrowers are "a terrible idea", smokes a joint, calls The Boring Company a "hobby", and issues a stark warning against our use of coal and artificial intelligence.

And that's just scratching the surface of the unwieldy but incredibly entertaining interview, which you can watch in full below.

Musk's Matrix-style simulation hypothesis comes from the fact that the Universe has been around 13.8 billion years, and in that vast period of time he says it's statistically likely a civilisation has figured out how to make a fully believable simulation. Once that happens, it would only be a matter of time before they set up their own fake multiverses.

"The argument for the simulation is quite strong, because ... if you assume any rate of improvement at all then games will be indistinguishable from reality, or civilization will end," says Musk around the 43-minute mark.

"One of those two things will occur. Therefore, we are most likely in a simulation, because we exist."

If this is the case, the so-called "base reality" that's simulation our reality would probably be pretty boring, he says.

This isn't the first time he's shared this idea - back in 2016 at Recode's annual Code Conference he said:

"Given that we're clearly on a trajectory to have games that are indistinguishable from reality, and those games could be played on any set-top box or on a PC or whatever, and there would probably be billions of such computers or set-top boxes, it would seem to follow that the...

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To: re_tail20

He needs to lay off the DMT.


21 posted on 09/12/2018 12:47:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: re_tail20

The earth is supposedly roughly 5B yrs old and we are nowhere close to creating a universe so I call BS on his idea. Any civilizations that have developed probably have remained within their star systems. The distances are just to great to offset the resources required to leave.


22 posted on 09/12/2018 12:47:48 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: re_tail20

“and in that vast period of time he says it’s statistically likely a civilisation has figured out how to make a fully believable simulation”

And it’s equally likely that an omnipotent being created the universe with all its natural rules and corresponds with it continuously.

You can think up this crap all day long and as long as it happened before the observable “beginning of time”, it’s all valid...because it’s all speculation.

Musk needs to have a vacation in the Carribbean and stop toking on the radio.


23 posted on 09/12/2018 12:50:09 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: DannyTN

yes. It has been falsely represented. I watched it and it was just as you described. In fact I’m not even sure he inhaled it was so light and you could tell he had no love for it. Pot to us type A types is a real downer on motivation. And that is a HUGE turn off for driven, ambitious people. Elon spoke to that in the video. But that got no play.


24 posted on 09/12/2018 12:55:27 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: re_tail20
We are most likely a simulation, because we exist

That's acknowledging a deity. God would be the ultimate being that isn't a simulation. Its essence is unknowable to us, even with belief in its existence. (nobody follows my logic, but it makes sense to me <^..^> )

25 posted on 09/12/2018 12:57:57 PM PDT by grania
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To: plain talk

or perhaps the ability to reach other civilizations comes with the inevitability of self-destruction


26 posted on 09/12/2018 1:03:53 PM PDT by grania
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To: re_tail20

“Musk’s Matrix-style simulation hypothesis comes from the fact that the Universe has been around 13.8 billion years, and in that vast period of time he says it’s statistically likely a civilisation has figured out how to make a fully believable simulation.”

If we’re in a simulation, then we have no idea how long the actual universe has been around, and no way of determining that, thus we would have no evidence for how statistically likely any of this would actually be...


27 posted on 09/12/2018 1:15:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RoosterRedux

But not bad optics for a guy who believes he is brilliant and creative enough to offset this stunt by his continued output of new ideas...and then delivers on that.

...

Consider that Trump said he thought even bad publicity to be good for business. Trump didn’t use much advertising. I don’t believe Musk’s companies use any at all, which is especially unusual for a car company. Now consider who makes their money from advertising and that could explain to some extent why the media hates Trump and Musk so much.


28 posted on 09/12/2018 1:17:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: plain talk

“The earth is supposedly roughly 5B yrs old and we are nowhere close to creating a universe so I call BS on his idea.”

Well, from the time we developed computing a few decades ago to today, we now have quite a few pretty impressive high definition, highly detailed multiplayer simulations going.

There is no confusing those with reality, but if we continue to develop at this pace I doubt it would take millions of years for us to create a simulation that could fool you.


29 posted on 09/12/2018 1:19:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger; tx_eggman
Watching The Matrix while on Weed is no way to go thru life, Elon................

Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

That's why I got my Master's degree.
30 posted on 09/12/2018 1:19:21 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: re_tail20
"He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two three dimensional thinking"

7

31 posted on 09/12/2018 1:35:48 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: re_tail20

He sounds pretty much like any other pot head I’ve ever tried to have a conversation with.


32 posted on 09/12/2018 2:04:18 PM PDT by robel
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To: Boogieman
If we’re in a simulation, then we have no idea how long the actual universe has been around, ...

There is no actual universe and the simulation of it isn't really a real simulation either.
It's more like a dream, dood!

33 posted on 09/12/2018 2:28:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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I watched the Rogan podcast with Elon.

Brilliant mind.

But I wondered if Musk really understood how electric cars work:


34 posted on 09/12/2018 2:43:40 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: re_tail20

Like, wow, dude.

If life as we know it is really a sim, then who’s in control?


35 posted on 09/13/2018 8:23:42 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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