Posted on 09/10/2018 8:20:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
One of the most dramatic pieces of evidence for a pre-Columbian crossing of the Atlantic is to be found in a single Latin marginalia, that is some words scribbled into the margin of a book. The sentence in question appears in a copy of the Historia rerum ubique gestarum by Aeneas Sylvius Piccolomini which was published in Venice in 1477. In that work Piccolomini discusses the arrival of Indians in Europe blown from across the Atlantic at a date when America was unknown to Europeans (another post another day). Next to this passage a reader has written in Latin the following extraordinary words:Homines de catayo versus oriens venierunt. Nos vidimus multa notabilia et specialiter in galuei ibernie virum et uxorem in duabus lignis areptis ex mirabili persona...Now our author (of the marginalia) was in Ireland sometime in the 1470s or perhaps the very early 1480s. He then inserted this sentence in his copy of Piccolomini sometime after 1477 and probably in the early 1480s: he certainly wrote in the book in 1481. He had clearly, while in Ireland, seen a man and a woman who he believed had been blown across the Atlantic from China and who had arrived on a strange looking boat...
The Gulf Stream washes up American plants, American animals and American driftwood on the shore of south-western Ireland. Why couldn't the Gulf Stream wash up an Amerindian vessel? ...
...the author of the marginalia is remembered by history as Christopher Columbus. He was most likely in Ireland in 1476-1477 on a sailing trip to the north. This accidental encounter with a Amerindians (or Chinese as he believed) was to prove an important moment in his life. And years later his son recalled the episode in his father's autobiography...
(Excerpt) Read more at strangehistory.net ...
Toto, I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore.
American Indians in Roman Europe? June 6, 2010
http://www.strangehistory.net/2010/06/06/american-indians-in-roman-europe/
Kayaking Greenland to Scotland
Posted on September 8, 2016 by uoamuseums
https://uoamuseums.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/kayaking-greenland-to-scotland/
Inuit in Orkney? February 2, 2013
http://www.strangehistory.net/2013/02/02/inuit-in-orkney/
Elizabeth reveals the truth behind Hebridean mermaids
21/01/2014 16:54 - Updated: 23/01/2014 09:29
https://www.whatson-north.co.uk/Whats-On/Books/Elizabeth-reveals-the-truth-behind-Hebriden-mermaids-21012014.htm
other sidebars:
Fara Heim
https://www.buckingham.ac.uk/directory/dr-graeme-davis/faraheim
I’ve been to Galway several times.
I’ve seen many things there.
Mostly due to Harp and Guinness.
Ah-woo, werewolves of Kansas.
Hell, if you have the Harp and Guinness, you don't need to actually make the journey.
Bump
They’re both crap on this side of the pond.
The Indians discovered Europe before they were Indians. Too bad they didn’t (couldn’t?) document their trip.
Paging Elizabeth Warren
On one of the episodes of the treasure hunters on Oak Island they go to Europe in search of clues about the treasure being buried by the Templars. They go to some old church that was a Templar church built in 1100 or something - and they point out a fresco on the wall that they say is a corn stalk with the ears of corn.
But corn at that time only grew in the Americas - so proof that the Templars had been to America! (I don’t recall that they ever showed the corn stalk in great detail, or any real study of it.) But - makes for an interesting story.
The way I was taught it oh so many years ago in school, was that Christopher Columbus knew there was land thataway (waves in a westerly direction) due to the fishing fleets working the grand banks and Newfoundland coasts from England.
He, Christopher, was looking for a southerly rout around that landmass to the orient.
Yeah, uh, the Gascon and Basque fishermen used to fish the Grand Banks, and that came about because of the uptick in demand for fish during the Middle Ages, I think that detail was due to the "eat fish on Friday" rule the Pope had made to alleviate famine somewhere. The fisheries kept moving on them (sometimes that's attributed to, you guessed it, climate change) and they went more and more distance from You-rope. My speculation is that the Basques are a language isolate because they originated in North America, possibly settling in Iberia as recently as the 5th century AD.
I'm a teetotaler, I'm just in it for the jokes.
I remember that as well (not from the Oak Island show) just not which church; there's also a (probably precolumbian) relief carving of a turkey in a church somewhere in Scandinavia, but that's hardly anomalous.
Basques are a language isolate because they originated in North America, possibly settling in Iberia as recently as the 5th century AD.
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And that makes my obsessive nagging belief that Trojans migrated from the eastern Baltic and Greeks from the western Baltic to seem almost reasonable.
Still your fault though. You made me read that book.
Too bad, so sad. The Maritime Archaic / Red Paint People left their traces in the upper east coast of N America, Arctic Canada, and in the Asian Arctic as well. It's not clear which direction they were heading.
Here ya go...
Into a Belfast pub comes Paddy Murphy, looking like he’d just been run over by a train. His arm is in a sling, his nose is broken, his face is cut and bruised and he’s walking with a limp.
“What happened to you?” asks Sean, the bartender.” “Jamie O’Conner and me had a fight,” says Paddy.” “That little shit, O’Conner,” says Sean, “He couldn’t do that to you, he must have had something in his hand.”
“That he did,” says Paddy, “a shovel is what he had, and a terrible lickin’ he gave me with it.” “Well,” says Sean, “you should have defended yourself, didn’t you have something in your hand?”
“That I did,” said Paddy. “Mrs. O’Conner’s breast, and a thing of beauty it was, but useless in a fight.”
The joke's on you, that gun I had to your head was a plastic 3d printed fake. Bwa ha ha.
America B.C.A fascinating letter I received from a Shoshone Indian who had been traveling in the Basque country of Spain tells of his recognition of Shoshone words over there, including his own name, whose Shoshone meaning proved to match the meaning attached to a similar word by the modern Basques. Unfortunately I mislaid this interesting letter. If the Shoshone scholar who wrote to me should chance to see these words I hope he will forgive me and contact me again. The modern Basque settlers of Idaho may perhaps bring forth a linguist to investigate matters raised in this chapter. [p 173]
by Barry Fell
(1976)
find it in a nearby libraryfrom Iberia, Not Siberia:Although questionable in the minds of most anthropologists, some linguistic evidence might point toward the Iberian Peninsula. In the 1960's, the Morris Swadesh in the Handbook of Middle American Indians, claimed he found a connection between the Nadene (Athasbascan) linguistic family of North America and the Basque linguistic isolate. This connection, he argued, dated back thousands of years. Basque is the only European language to have survived the influence of proto-Indo-European, which entered the Basque region more than 5,000 years ago. One can infer then that Basque language is at least 5,000 years old, and some argue it is far older. The Basque themselves contend they have survived in their homeland for tens of thousands of years. Though Swadesh has been criticized as a lumper when it comes to linguistic correlations, the claim is nonetheless intriguing under the circumstances. It should be noted that linguist Merritt Ruhlen recently reported to have located a language related to Nadene in Asia. Ket, the only remaining member of the Yeniseian family of languages, shares common words like "birch bark" with some Nadene languages. Ket is spoken by about 550 people (out of a total population of 1,100) who live along the Yenisei River in central Siberia (Lysek 2000).
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