Posted on 09/04/2018 7:29:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin
The University of Queensland and the NÉEL Institute has shown that, as far as quantum physics is concerned, the chicken and the egg can both come first.
Dr Jacqui Romero from the ARC Centre of Excellence for Engineered Quantum Systems said that in quantum physics, cause-and-effect is not always as straightforward as one event causing another.
"The weirdness of quantum mechanics means that events can happen without a set order," she said.
"Take the example of your daily trip to work, where you travel partly by bus and partly by train.
"Normally, you would take the bus then the train, or the other way round.
"In our experiment, both of these events can happen first," Dr Romero said.
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No kidding.
So the end of the Universe can happen before the beginning of the Universe.
Temporal causality is a useful illusion.
Riiiiight
This is one of the single most absurd discussions I’ve ever heard in my life; like the kid in the movie Animal House smoking pot with the professor thinking it’s possible our solar system is like an atom in a chair leg or some such rot.
It’s simple. Always has been.
Egg first.
The thing we call a “chicken” never developed as a mating pair, but hatched out as a combination of genes from its parents and ancestry. After several such of these developed into adults and bred again, eventually “chicken” bred true, meaning, with small tweaks and variations over time, “chicken” was NEVER first but came from an egg from disparate, then eventually more similar parents.
I passed this along to Drs. Chris Wells and Stanley Miller (my undergraduate advisers) and it floored them, but they totally understood it.
Settled science.
Unless you’re on the side of “creation science” in which case God put the chickens here as chickens, in which case the answer is chicken.
Adolescent nihilism to continue arguing over this.
Well, without getting too philosophical about it, if time began with the Big Bang, then what “caused” it could not have happened “before” it. There was no “before”. There are also other paradoxes that you’re stuck with if you’re stuck on mating time with causality.
Of course either event can happen first. But only one can happen first each occurrence. You can’t take both the train and the bus.
On the contrary, temporal causality is an absolute.
Baloney. Nothing ever came out of an egg which was a different species than the parents. Just like nothing ever comes out of a mammal, naturally, that wasn’t in the parents.
That is why evolution is a crock. Goldschmidt’s hopeful monsters.
Magic.
in the same space time plane??? i doubt it...
Complete bull$hit. The problem is that these “scientists” immerse themselves in quantum physics and the equations that go with it. Then they define the Universe and reality by what they have been studying.
Sorry, buds, but reality came first, then your pseudoscience. Since your equations don’t describe reality, they are wrong and must be thrown away.
Cause precedes effect - that is part of its definition. Effect does not precede a cause. Be careful not to confuse your dumb experiments with parallel processing.
in the same space time plane??? i doubt it...
Allow me to provide some proof.
The DEMS want to "impeach and jail" the President of the US for crimes he has yet to commit.
ya got me, my bad... what WAS i thinking?
"In our experiment, both of these events can happen first," Dr Romero said.
Uhh--no.
God also created the egg.
Hello. Are you a chicken?
Nope. I’m an egg.
How did you get here?
I was laid.
Is everyone laid?
Nope. Some are just chicken.
quantum mechanics IS the weirdest thing ever.
it is proof that intelligence in observing the universe controls the behavior of the universe
And Schrodinger’s Cat is both alive AND dead!
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