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"[I]t isn't something that we can observe in our everyday life."

No kidding.

1 posted on 09/04/2018 7:29:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

So the end of the Universe can happen before the beginning of the Universe.


2 posted on 09/04/2018 7:35:56 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: BenLurkin

Temporal causality is a useful illusion.


3 posted on 09/04/2018 7:37:26 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: BenLurkin

This is one of the single most absurd discussions I’ve ever heard in my life; like the kid in the movie Animal House smoking pot with the professor thinking it’s possible our solar system is like an atom in a chair leg or some such rot.

It’s simple. Always has been.

Egg first.

The thing we call a “chicken” never developed as a mating pair, but hatched out as a combination of genes from its parents and ancestry. After several such of these developed into adults and bred again, eventually “chicken” bred true, meaning, with small tweaks and variations over time, “chicken” was NEVER first but came from an egg from disparate, then eventually more similar parents.

I passed this along to Drs. Chris Wells and Stanley Miller (my undergraduate advisers) and it floored them, but they totally understood it.

Settled science.

Unless you’re on the side of “creation science” in which case God put the chickens here as chickens, in which case the answer is chicken.

Adolescent nihilism to continue arguing over this.


5 posted on 09/04/2018 7:42:16 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: BenLurkin

Of course either event can happen first. But only one can happen first each occurrence. You can’t take both the train and the bus.


7 posted on 09/04/2018 7:50:30 AM PDT by IronJack
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"The weirdness of quantum mechanics means that events can happen without a set order," she said.

in the same space time plane??? i doubt it...

11 posted on 09/04/2018 8:03:48 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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Complete bull$hit. The problem is that these “scientists” immerse themselves in quantum physics and the equations that go with it. Then they define the Universe and reality by what they have been studying.
Sorry, buds, but reality came first, then your pseudoscience. Since your equations don’t describe reality, they are wrong and must be thrown away.
Cause precedes effect - that is part of its definition. Effect does not precede a cause. Be careful not to confuse your dumb experiments with parallel processing.


12 posted on 09/04/2018 8:07:46 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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"Normally, you would take the bus then the train, or the other way round.

"In our experiment, both of these events can happen first," Dr Romero said.

Uhh--no.

15 posted on 09/04/2018 8:25:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Hello. Are you a chicken?
Nope. I’m an egg.
How did you get here?
I was laid.
Is everyone laid?
Nope. Some are just chicken.


17 posted on 09/04/2018 8:29:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: BenLurkin

quantum mechanics IS the weirdest thing ever.

it is proof that intelligence in observing the universe controls the behavior of the universe


18 posted on 09/04/2018 8:31:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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Furthermore - Are you the Walrus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkVkkbduFaU


20 posted on 09/04/2018 8:35:08 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Does it matter? Just get in my belly, the both of you!...


23 posted on 09/04/2018 10:19:08 AM PDT by Hatteras
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Speaking of eggs, have you ever fried them up in Kerrygold butter?

I know all about bacon grease but Kerrygold butter is the way to go when frying eggs. No other butter will do!

28 posted on 09/04/2018 2:32:30 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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The thing is about these quantum effects :

They work on a micro micro micro scale (the objects involved make an atom relatively the same size as the solar system).

The interactions happen constantly and are so numerous/frequent that they really are the vanilla soup the LARGER universe is built upon (its bit all averages out).

So its stupid and misleading to make believe that ‘your daily trip to work’ is any analogy. It is so divorced from our perceived world, that its like it is mealy the blank canvas everything greater is painted upon.


29 posted on 09/04/2018 2:33:08 PM PDT by elbook
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To: BenLurkin

The train and bus analogy is a non sequitur. Quantum events can be ordered differently but in our spacetime the order is a deterministic chain. Quantum events are not confined to our spacetime ‘flow’.


32 posted on 09/04/2018 6:30:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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