Harper’s Weekly – August 7, 1858

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

Link to previous thread

[Homer_J_Simpson]

The Late Rev. Jabez Bunting, D.D. – 2-4
Contents – 3
Editorials – 4-6
The Lounger – 6-7
A Boy Suffocated in a Chest – 8
The Massacre of Christians at Djidda – 9-10
Things Wise and Otherwise – 10
Cremorne Gardens, London, England – 11-12
Weekly Market Summary – 12
A Trip to the Fishing Banks – 13-18
Little Good-For-Nothing – 19-21
The Last Devil’s Walk – 21
How Mr. Rarey Tames Horses – 22-26*
The Delights of Spending the Summer in the Country – 27

* John S. Rarey Wikipedia page

[Tax-chick]

The late Rev. Jabez Bunting seems to have been a very fine fellow whom I would have like to invite to dinner.

[BroJoeK]

“Massacre of Christians at Djidda” near Mecca.

Hmmmm... So this didn’t just start in recent years?

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Hasn’t Islam been gaining converts by the sword since the beginning?

[BroJoeK]

I would question if any Muslims were ever converted without the sword, and so far as I can remember, only Louis Farrakhan's "Black Muslims" were ever 100% voluntary.
And were they ever true Muslims?
I don't know...

Further, even if we could point to some who took up Mohamadism voluntarily, how many of those did so in order to later take up swords to conquer and "convert" their enemies?

In this particular example, the victims were European consulate employees, families and merchants, so "conversion" was clearly not the issue.
But the massacres also included lootings, so perhaps there was some economic motive mixed with their religious fervor?

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from August 5 (reply #11) .

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

[BroJoeK]

"and be not rebarbarized by Brigham Young or Red Republicanism, it will be a strange place in 1958"

Red Republicans??
I've seen other such labels, i.e., radical Republicans or Black Republicans, but this is the first I've seen "Red Republicanism".

Has anyone seen it before, or know what it refers to exactly?
Hmmmmm…..

"Origin:
Mid 19th century; earliest use found in Freeman's Journal.
From red + republican, originally after French républicain rouge."

So, OK, French radical republicans were called "reds" at the time, but surely our good correspondent does not mean to equate rural mild-mannered, even docile, US Republicans to them?

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Merriam-Webster: "an extreme Republican of the French Revolution."

It seems Mr. Strong was thinking not of the new Republican Party (of which he was by this time a member, I think) but of an upheaval involving guillotines.

[colorado tanker]

Interesting that Our Diarist is speculating on the world of 1958, where the entire world is bound together with railroads, steamships and telegraph wires.

He's probably too much of a hard headed realist to spin fantasies in his mind about a world with commercial air travel, telephony and that newfangled television.

I do remember in the 1960's the TV networks were agog with showing us live TV transmitted by the first commercial communications satellite, Telstar. Live from ______ (London or such) by Telstar!

[Tax-chick]

I wonder what George would think about the global reach of today’s Mormon church, the nationwide success of Catholicism, and the looney toons of his own Trinity Episcopal. Not to mention the Joooos.

Would he have principles different from those of his class?

[BroJoeK]

colorado tanker: "I do remember in the 1960's the TV networks were agog with showing us live TV transmitted by the first commercial communications satellite, Telstar.
Live from ______ (London or such) by Telstar! "

Wasn't that Huntley on one end and Brinkley on the other?

[BroJoeK]

Tax-chick: "I wonder what George would think about..."

Remembering that all these changes came about little by little, day by day, usually plenty of time to consider each one on its own.

Strong was multi-faceted -- lawyer, academic, church vestryman, funded a Union regiment, helped found the US Sanitary Commission to help wounded soldiers, the Union League Club to "cultivate a profound national devotion," and to "reconciling the whites and blacks of the South into the Republican Party."
His wife served on a hospital ship and together they performed as amateur musicians.

So Strong was quite a guy -- fully committed to his family, his faith, his party and his country.

I think today, in retirement, he'd make a great FReeper!

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from July 29 (reply #9).

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Allen C. Guelzo, Lincoln and Douglas: The Debates that Defined America

[Homer_J_Simpson]

[Continued from August 10 (reply #7).]

August 12. Hasket Derby has sailed for Europe in search of knowledge. I expect to take Miss Leavenworth to Barrington tomorrow.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

[M Kehoe]

Miss Leavenworth.

That name rings a bell.

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Miss Leavenworth.

That name rings a bell.

I thought the same, so I did a simple Bing search, which turned up nothing. From the index I learned that Annie Leavenworth appears eleven times in Strong's entries between October 1857 and November 1859, in connection either with a social gathering or a musical event. One of the former also names an "old" Leavenworth, presumably her father. I don't know who he is, either.

She must be a pretty close friend if she is joining the family at their vacation resort in Massachusetts.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Curiosity piqued, I examined the index in the other 3 volumes of Strong's diaries. Annie L. only has 3 other entries, all in 1860. The last hints at how interesting this project shall become. On the night of October 5, 1860, Leavenworth joins Mr. and Mrs. Strong and one other gentlemen at

"Tiffany's shop in Broadway, where I had engaged a second story window. We inspected the grand National Wide-Awake torchlight procession. It was brilliant and successful. It was more than two hours in passing. . ."

The Wide-Awakes were Republican activists who marched to raise interest and support for Republican candidates. This one is barely a month before Lincoln's election as President.

[M Kehoe]

Thanks.

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[Amagi]

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