One for the Anti-Q's and the Q trolls...

The Q-fans are his biggest fans.

Don't believe the hype...the pro-Sessions wing of the Trump base isn't that big.

101 posted on 07/25/2018 12:46:31 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)

Lol...its like wearing a Q T-shirt ($29.95) to a Trump rally and yelling "Best President Ever" at the top of your lungs when he comes out...if he turns and appears to notice you, is it because you yelled or because of the shirt you're wearing?

-btw this is considered "proof" in Qwazytown...

Firstly, no one can trade mark a letter of the alphabet. So you insinuation that Q or an organization that any central licensing organization is making money based on the letter Q on T-shirts due to the QAnon movement is completely a misguided notion. Q itself has told people to not have anything to do with people who monetize interpretation of Q drops, sell books or YouTube access, etc. There is no such licensing. That is a false trail you are raising that has no basis in fact and is merely the result of entrepreneurship’s (read Capitalism) very nature to fill a vacuum.

Secondly, what you fail to grasp is that the fellow with the Q T-shirt was not just there at the front of the crowd randomly, but, according to his story posted on Reddit and Twitter, and backed up by others who were also there with him, was that members of Trump’s Team pulled him and his family out of line when entering the venue, elevated to VIP status, and MOVED them to the front of the stage because of his Q T-SHIRT. . . and it was not just once that President Trump acknowledged him with his Q shirt but TWICE, separated by considerable amount of time. This could be planning seen while watching the entire 45 minutes of Trump’s appearance at the rally.

This is not the only time that people wearing Q gear have been upgraded by Trump staffers and moved to be near the podium and also recognized by President Trump. There IS something going on that Trump is aware of.

Thirdly, my observation is that your comments parallel the snide and rude approach that other such skeptics take when entering an actual Q thread. They start by announcing their presence by insulting everyone in sight as being not too bright and cultish. . . and using terminology such as Qwazytown.

Such behavior is not a good way to win friends or open a viable discussion. That does not invite anything except response in kind. Rude attackers get that response in kind after friendly attempts to reason with them. . . and the people participating in the thread get back more of the same insults, ridicule, and even escalation plus threats of demanding the deletion or, often the actual demand in thread, of the entire topic from from FR in return to their attempts to at reasonable, sane discussion. The hostility is frequently palpable. The prejudice is obvious and always based in ignorance based on what they’ve been told, not on fact. Then they wonder why their attitudes are not appreciated by the participants. Little wonder.

102 posted on 07/25/2018 1:36:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)

No problem, I started the post specifically to address people that are just where you are at with this, so I had to try... I know I need the ones with an open mind though, If I can’t help you, maybe I can help somebody else that stumbles across this thread.

Seems like we have had a relatively civil discussion even though we disagree... That is what is BADLY needed in America today!

If I helped clear the haze from even 1 persons eyes and just START the wake-up process, the whole exercise was worth it.

Over the years, I have known many people in my life that won’t admit the truth when the hard evidence is presented too them, still deny, deny, deny. So on something as subjective as this covert operation, I can understand people that are skeptical. We have been burned too many times thinking these people were finally going to get theirs... I get it!

103 posted on 07/25/2018 1:37:24 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan

There IS something going on that Trump is aware of.

Of course he's aware of the Q stuff; how could he avoid being aware of an online 'movement' that involves many people who support him politically? I'm sure he's aware of many who work against him, too. And it makes political sense to make use of support. But that doesn't mean that Q has an inside line to the Executive, or that Q is even benign.

Imagine a scenario:

You've been a follower of Q for a year or more. He's always seemed to support the same interests that you do, and he's managed to convince you that he has insider knowledge. You are impressed by his understanding of your deep concerns, his Idealism and promises. You are also very much invested in the whole Q thing - after all, you've given many, many hours and days of your time to this endeavor which you have been convinced is in aid of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Then one day, Q starts to very subtly shift the narrative - not much at all, just enough to make some little part of you wonder 'What's Up? THIS doesn't sound like Q'!

But, you are Invested! - and it's a small thing. You scan back in your mind to all of the times that you may have questioned Q, but everything turned out fine; and you tell yourself that you must be wrong, because Q couldn't possibly be misleading you; he must be indicating knowledge of something important. So you swallow it; and as time goes on, you are doing Q's bidding, instead of just having a good time figuring out his cryptic clues and enjoying the reinforcement of your own beliefs that Q provides.

This is how psychological manipulation works, and how cults work. It's used all the time on behalf of many different interests, and has been forever.

I don't know who or what Q is, and that's precisely why I'm not on the bandwagon. Doesn't it worry you that something like this could be going on, when you could 'learn' everything you are learning on your own, without associating yourself with an online 'game' whose ultimate goal you can't possibly know?

Now, it can be suggested that ANY involvement in any online forum might make one subject to being 'used' in some way without knowing it. But it seems to me that when the whole 'enterprise' centers around very open-ended, cryptic messages instead of clear, reasoned argument, there's a much greater chance that you - and if not you, then simpler minds - are being manipulated unaware.

Someone mentioned the Federalist Papers to me today. It seems to me that many of the people 'playing Q' on the Internet would benefit much more from just sitting down with some good American history books, if they want to understand how this country became great, the principles and political philosophies that went into its founding, how and why we have fallen away from our beginnings, and why we are suffering all the vicissitudes that we are. Or, for those who keep telling me that some people need to be brought around in 'little bites' - spend some of that time on building a website that introduces people to basic principles in itty bitty bites - SOMETHING besides letting some unknown interest suck up your time this way!

I see so many people on FR who seem terrified of the insidious, even 'demonic' dangers of religious 'cults' - but seem to have no issues with walking into what could be a political one just as dangerous. SMH!

104 posted on 07/25/2018 3:55:22 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

Lol...do you really think it makes a difference how that guy got his seat in the audience?

However he did it...the ensuing video and ‘story’ is completely contrived and intended to be ‘atroturf’ for the Q movement.

Mission accomplished huh?

And so what if some (unverified) staffer got him in...where did you get the notion that Trump is surrounded by loyalists anyway?

Take you for example....its not like you ever exhibited any particular loyalty to Trump before “Q”came along.

In fact...like your other Q buddies, your background profile is a study of avoidance of any and all political preferences during the entire 2016 election cycle.

Its almost like you’re all wearing masks...

105 posted on 07/25/2018 7:41:44 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)

To: Jamestown1630

Nice composition.

Don’t expect a response from his lordship tho...

107 posted on 07/25/2018 7:42:53 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)

Oh, I don’t expect one.

But I noticed something interesting tonight.

When the Q Folks get excited about a subject or reference, it sometimes seems to “slant” the cursory web search results on that topic toward stuff that the Q-ers have been concerned with. Instead of finding plain information about the subject, you have to plough through references to Q discussion posts, and media reports on same.

Just happened to notice this tonight while trying to research an old author whose works had once figured in the Q threads. You have to go through scores of Q crap now, to find anything “B.Q.” about that author.

Curious...and neat trick.

Maybe I won’t throw away my old hard-copy Encyclopedia after all.

108 posted on 07/25/2018 8:16:25 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

To: Jamestown1630

You've been a follower of Q for a year or more. He's always seemed to support the same interests that you do, and he's managed to convince you that he has insider knowledge. You are impressed by his understanding of your deep concerns, his Idealism and promises. You are also very much invested in the whole Q thing - after all, you've given many, many hours and days of your time to this endeavor which you have been convinced is in aid of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Then one day, Q starts to very subtly shift the narrative - not much at all, just enough to make some little part of you wonder 'What's Up? THIS doesn't sound like Q'!

First of all, Jamestown1630, this demonstrates you have no clue how Q drops work at all. . . or much knowledge of Q.

Q does not instruct or bid anyone to do anything. Q points out links for people to research and verify the veracity themselves. There is no leading anyone anywhere to do Q's bidding. THAT is where you are completely off the rails.

Q has NOT been around for a year or more. . . this displays your ignorance of what you are criticizing. The posts that would be later known as Q appeared for the first time in a post on 4Chan on October 27, 2017, a little more than eight months ago under the signature of "Alice In Wonderland." This later morphed into "Alice and Wonderland" and then in mid-November to "Q."

Someone mentioned the Federalist Papers to me today. It seems to me that many of the people 'playing Q' on the Internet would benefit much more from just sitting down with some good American history books, if they want to understand how this country became great, the principles and political philosophies that went into its founding, how and why we have fallen away from our beginnings, and why we are suffering all the vicissitudes that we are.

If you had at all followed the Q discussions on FreeRepublic you would have found that many of the people discussing Q have cited the Federalist papers and are intimately familiar with them. We are, in fact, quite familiar with this nation's founding documents and the philosophical discussions that undergirded their creation. Q sometimes has referenced them. . . but you wouldn't know that because you have not read the Q drops.

Your insulting insinuations that we who do the deep diving into the areas, the rabbit holes, that Q points people to look into are somehow akin to religious cultists is what turns us off to those who make those claims. We do NOT follow the "pronouncements" of Q like they were handed down from on high. We look where he points to areas that need investigating. . . and find that they link together on our own. IT is not Q that has constructed these links, but the people who participated in the misdeeds originally which we uncover, and find they are ALSO involved in the other misdeeds over there. Such repeated findings of the same actors over-and-over again in seemingly non-connected events start to build a pattern that IS CONNECTED. . . and once you start seeing the web of those connections, it cannot be unseen and becomes unmistakeable in other areas and much easier to see.

Q pointed out the interconnection of the MSM, political class, banking, European old-family money, and the Deep State people, which had their own long-term connections back to schools, fraternal organizations, and clubs, at the top of every bureaucratic department of our government, and the in-and-out revolving door of family members between them. Early on Q said to "follow the wives" —who, incidentally, often do not have the same surname as their husbands especially among progressives. That simple suggestion opened a huge door of internecine connections. Money and even power often went to the children or other close relatives not blatantly obvious, but found when one started digging. Surnames were legally changed to obfuscate connections, but track them back and eyes get opened to the relationships. . . or do you believe in coincidences?

Frankly after you've found the same people at the bottom of the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ad nauseam rabbit hole, coincidence is no longer a valid possibility or even on the horizon any more. One is so far beyond coincidence that it is a certainty there is something deeper involved. First time, Ok, that's educational. Second time, that's coincidence. But third and all subsequent times? Those are enemy action.

To return to your first point:

Of course he's aware of the Q stuff; how could he avoid being aware of an online 'movement' that involves many people who support him politically? I'm sure he's aware of many who work against him, too. And it makes political sense to make use of support. But that doesn't mean that Q has an inside line to the Executive, or that Q is even benign.

If Trump knows about Q and the QAnon phenomenon, then he'd have had his people research it. He'd know that be doing what you say, he's validating Q and what Q is saying. Do you REALLY think he'd validate it if it were not true? I can't believe he would. Ergo, he knows about Q and it is not something he would be doing thoughtlessly just for support. . . and we have evidence he has instructed his people about Q supporters.

109 posted on 07/25/2018 8:25:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)

You edit very effectively.

I’ve been reading Q for many months - and ‘IT’ is also very effective.

Let’s make a deal: You keep trying to convince people that ‘following’ Q, and chasing it’s suggestions all over the Internet, is a good idea.

I’ll keep trying to tell them that it may NOT be such a great idea.

OK?

110 posted on 07/25/2018 8:43:09 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

However he did it...the ensuing video and ‘story’ is completely contrived and intended to be ‘atroturf’ for the Q movement.

Obviously FACTUAL INFORMATION MATTERS NOTHING TO YOU. Your mind is hermetically sealed and filled with lead.

Mission accomplished huh?

And so what if some (unverified) staffer got him in...where did you get the notion that Trump is surrounded by loyalists anyway?

So Trump himself surrounds himself with people who sabotage his speeches and don't support him? You are the delusional one. Trump gets rid of people who don't support him.

Now you are saying that TRUMP'S organization is an ASTROTURFING OPERATION????!!!!! They are the ones who put out the video of his speech! They are the ones who selected who should be in the front, not anyone with a Q on their shirts.

Take you for example....its not like you ever exhibited any particular loyalty to Trump before “Q”came along.

In fact...like your other Q buddies, your background profile is a study of avoidance of any and all political preferences during the entire 2016 election cycle.

Its almost like you’re all wearing masks...

So now you devolve to both general and personal slurs, innuendos and insults. . . what a piece of work YOU are, Mac_truck. . . It shows you have a sad little mind and are a person without a real argument in your arsenal except those of ad hominem insults and slurs, and you have a real nastiness in your soul.

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. . . AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE I PUT MY SUPPORT, MONEY, AND WHERE MY VOTE WENT!

But I will tell everyone but you that was to DONALD J. TRUMP!

Now, you just go ahead in your petty little way, and make innuendos and sling feces like a bratty child using your self-created facturds, those things you pulled out of your rear, things that you can't prove, assertions of 'special' knowledge you don't have. That is the attitudes we see from TROLLS who come into a Q thread and then wonder why they aren't appreciated.

"Background" profile my behind, you insulting asshat!

111 posted on 07/25/2018 8:55:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)

LOL! You were more than wrong on the Twin Peaks/ Waco threads and you continue that fine record here. What a dolt. LOL!

112 posted on 07/25/2018 9:05:43 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)

Oh, My! - You said ‘asshat’!

Don’t know if I can handle this...

113 posted on 07/25/2018 9:07:13 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

To: Jamestown1630

You edit very effectively.

I did not "edit." I rebutted your claims. There's a difference.

I’ve been reading Q for many months - and ‘IT’ is also very effective.

I disagree. I see no evidence you've been "reading Q" at all. Your posts do not show any knowledge of what Q has actually stated or anything about the nature of the mostly Socratic Q format. Q poses questions, and does not order or direct followers to do or accept anything as you clhey aim.

You go on trying to convince people that "chasing" facts all over the Internet is not a good idea, especially when such searches result in facts that are germane to events of the past that have meaning and impact on events occurring now and the near future. THAT claim of yours is sheer insanity. FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE is always useful, especially knowledge one has discovered and confirmed with multiple sources, most not provided by anyone except one's own researches, on one's own.

Your position is the untenable one. That position is to "Please, Nothing to see here. Jut put your head back into the sand and ignore the facts." Really?

114 posted on 07/25/2018 9:07:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)

To: mac_truck; Jamestown1630

Nice composition.

Don’t expect a response from his lordship tho...

And you don't expect one, eh? Nice dismissive attitude, from both of you.

Oh, and more ad hominem slurs. . . I took no "haughty airs," for you to impugn my response, trying to characterize me as acting "superior." That would be you two.

115 posted on 07/25/2018 9:10:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)

Goodnight, Swordmaker.

Your recent post to Mac indicates that you are not entirely in control of yourself and need a good sleep.

116 posted on 07/25/2018 9:10:57 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

To: Jamestown1630

Hey, nice try for the high ground. Fail though.

117 posted on 07/25/2018 9:15:49 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)

“Fail Though” is not a sentence.

118 posted on 07/25/2018 9:19:19 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")

To: Jamestown1630

Wow, that’s deep thinking. Dolt.

119 posted on 07/25/2018 9:21:45 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)

To: Jamestown1630

Well said, and just how I see it (coincidentally LOL!).
The proof is in the pudding and “Q” simply hasn’t produced any pudding.

See good Freeper research that, I hope, will be useful one day. Mostly a waste and distraction though.

Good luck with the trolls.

120 posted on 07/25/2018 9:23:19 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)

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