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Oldest Tools Outside Africa Found, Rewriting Human Story
National Geographic ^ | 7/11/2018 | Micheal Greshko

Posted on 07/11/2018 5:31:47 PM PDT by simpson96

Modern humans' distant relatives left Africa earlier than previously thought—rewriting a key chapter in humankind's epic prequel, according to a discovery unveiled on Wednesday in Nature.

Nearly a hundred stone tools found at the Shangchen site in central China may push back the spread of our ancient cousins—hominins—out of Africa by more than a quarter million years.

The toolmakers lived at Shangchen on and off for 800,000 years between 2.1 and 1.3 million years ago, leaving behind tools that are unprecedented outside of Africa. The site's oldest tools are roughly 300,000 years older than Dmanisi, a 1.8-million-year-old site in the Republic of Georgia with the oldest known fossils of our extinct cousin Homo erectus.

“Finding artifacts that you knew were around two million years old—and therefore the oldest outside Africa—was for me, as a palaeoanthropologist, really exciting,” says study coauthor Robin Dennell, a professor at the University of Exeter.

“More people have climbed Everest than found stone tools that old.”

“I’ve always said that once the Chinese researchers start looking for evidence on a similar scale as all the money spent in Africa, things will turn up!” exclaims Gerrit van den Bergh, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Wollongong who wasn't involved with the study.

“It again shows how little we actually know.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: africa; china; godsgravesglyphs; homoerectus; shangchen
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To: simpson96

“Distant relatives” No — they’d be human. Sketches in textbooks, lining bones up isn’t science. No science has shown any beneficial mutation with new features in any organism; what is necessary for science goes beyond the mindset of indoctrinated true believers, yet the evolution religion of assumption, vivid imagination, speculation and conjecture spread it’s deceitful worldview as if fact.

There is no “stone age” “bronze age” poppycock nonsense from a brigade of collaborating evo monkey dysphoria cult members in various disciplines with circular reasoning.

“800,000 years” “millions of years” more nonsense, no evidence earth is this old, but a necessary imaginative concept for the evolution religion to attempt to sneak into consciousness, despite violating basic laws of science everything came from nothing. What radiometric dating did they use on artificats? Since all forms of radiometric dating are assumption since they have to know the beginning material ratios, they have to know how much decay occurred by knowing the beginning material, which is impossible unless someone was there to take a sample. Case closed on radiometric dating.

So another rag is written of so-called “science facts”, similar dysentery is in unScientific unAmerican and the rest of the kennel scraps.


22 posted on 07/11/2018 6:12:15 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: simpson96

So, the Chinese were knocking off other people’s designs even back then...


23 posted on 07/11/2018 6:12:26 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: thoughtomator

>>Political correctness still has too much hold over alleged conservatives.

Yep. They find a finger bone and construct an entire creature from it, then invent a culture. Then when they put it all together with all the Hominids in a lineup, they refuse to see the obvious truth that is in their constructed “truth”.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species

That’s the Smithsonian!


24 posted on 07/11/2018 6:31:07 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92

Please state the obvious truth.


25 posted on 07/11/2018 6:38:52 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: fieldmarshaldj; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.

26 posted on 07/11/2018 6:40:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: JusPasenThru

You may be right. I’ve never really bought the “Out of Africa” theory.


27 posted on 07/11/2018 7:08:06 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Vendome

Harbor Freight, the earliest years.


28 posted on 07/11/2018 7:13:39 PM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: JusPasenThru

“I’ve been looking for my spanner.”
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Paleoanthropology Division
Smithsonian Institute
207 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20078

Dear Sir:

Thank you for your latest submission to the Institute, labeled “211-D, layer seven, next to the clothesline post. Hominid skull.” We have given this specimen a careful and detailed examination, and regret to inform you that we disagree with your theory that it represents “conclusive proof of the presence of Early Man in Charleston County two million years ago.” Rather, it appears that what you have found is the head of a Barbie doll, of the variety one of our staff, who has small children, believes to be the “Malibu Barbie”. It is evident that you have given a great deal of thought to the analysis of this specimen, and you may be quite certain that those of us who are familiar with your prior work in the field were loathe to come to contradiction with your findings. However, we do feel that there are a number of physical attributes of the specimen which might have tipped you off to it’s modern origin:

1. The material is molded plastic. Ancient hominid remains are typically fossilized bone.

2. The cranial capacity of the specimen is approximately 9 cubic centimeters, well below the threshold of even the earliest identified proto-hominids.

3. The dentition pattern evident on the “skull” is more consistent with the common domesticated dog than it is with the “ravenous man-eating Pliocene clams” you speculate roamed the wetlands during that time. This latter finding is certainly one of the most intriguing hypotheses you have submitted in your history with this institution, but the evidence seems to weigh rather heavily against it. Without going into too much detail, let us say that:

A. The specimen looks like the head of a Barbie doll that a dog has chewed on.

B. Clams don’t have teeth.

It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that we must deny your request to have the specimen carbon dated. This is partially due to the heavy load our lab must bear in it’s normal operation, and partly due to carbon dating’s notorious inaccuracy in fossils of recent geologic record. To the best of our knowledge, no Barbie dolls were produced prior to 1956 AD, and carbon dating is likely to produce wildly inaccurate results. Sadly, we must also deny your request that we approach the National Science Foundation’s Phylogeny Department with the concept of assigning your specimen the scientific name “Australopithecus spiff-arino.” Speaking personally, I, for one, fought tenaciously for the acceptance of your proposed taxonomy, but was ultimately voted down because the species name you selected was hyphenated, and didn’t really sound like it might be Latin.

However, we gladly accept your generous donation of this fascinating specimen to the museum. While it is undoubtedly not a hominid fossil, it is, nonetheless, yet another riveting example of the great body of work you seem to accumulate here so effortlessly. You should know that our Director has reserved a special shelf in his own office for the display of the specimens you have previously submitted to the Institution, and the entire staff speculates daily on what you will happen upon next in your digs at the site you have discovered in your back yard. We eagerly anticipate your trip to our nation’s capital that you proposed in your last letter, and several of us are pressing the Director to pay for it. We are particularly interested in hearing you expand on your theories surrounding the “trans-positating fillifitation of ferrous ions in a structural matrix” that makes the excellent juvenile Tyrannosaurus rex femur you recently discovered take on the deceptive appearance of a rusty 9-mm Sears Craftsman automotive crescent wrench.

Yours in Science,

Harvey Rowe
Curator, Antiquities


29 posted on 07/11/2018 7:18:38 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: simpson96

Modern humans’ distant relatives left Africa earlier than previously thought.....

Yet again another science fantasy to add to modern science’s vast, varied, politically motivated books of fairytales. The oh so intellectual kiddos sure like to lap the stories up, though. They definitely do so tickle their fancies.


30 posted on 07/11/2018 7:19:14 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: simpson96

Utter bullshit


31 posted on 07/11/2018 7:25:18 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: DaxtonBrown

LMAO! Brought tears to my eyes!

That’s funnier than a rubber crutch!


32 posted on 07/11/2018 7:30:10 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: simpson96

Based on those photos I am not convinced they are creature-made tools. Of course I can accept that experts believe they are tools. After all they do this for a living and should know what to look for.


33 posted on 07/11/2018 7:32:14 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: simpson96

If National G. says it, I know it’s a bunch of male bovine feces.


34 posted on 07/11/2018 7:37:26 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: SunkenCiv
"The site's oldest tools are roughly 300,000 years older than Dmanisi, a 1.8-million-year-old site in the Republic of Georgia with the oldest known fossils of our extinct cousin Homo erectus. "

Stranger In A New Land

35 posted on 07/11/2018 7:49:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: simpson96

“More people have climbed Everest than found stone tools that old.”

“It again shows how little we actually know.”

You can say that again!

“4,833 different people have summited Everest for a total of 8,306 summits”

http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2017/12/17/everest-by-the-numbers-2018-edition/


36 posted on 07/11/2018 8:11:54 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (uires sonm)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Love this!!!


37 posted on 07/11/2018 8:42:24 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: simpson96
Evolution of Man
Blnk Blnk
38 posted on 07/11/2018 9:46:51 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: blam
We know the Chinese tools were local, because they had trade barriers even then. ;^)

39 posted on 07/11/2018 10:00:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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More people have climbed Everest than found stone tools that old.
That's not much of a claim -- even "more people have died trying to climb Everest" wouldn't be that impressive. K2 maybe...

40 posted on 07/11/2018 10:02:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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