Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

WHAT IS ORIGIN OF THE CURRENT REFUGEE & ILLEGAL POLICY CONCERNING CHILDREN?
Self | 06-16-2018 | Captain Peter Blood

Posted on 06/16/2018 7:46:07 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood

Where did the current policy of separating children from the parents during Illegal border crossings originate?

All I find when I search are it's all the Trump Administrations fault. Every search engine seems to come up nothing but the Left's viewpoint here.

Yet I have read someplace that these policies predate Trump.

So any help appreciated on information on this.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 1brokemycapslock; aliens; capslock; children; daca; illegals; obama; obamaistoblame; obamalegacy; policy; refugee; vanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last
To: Captain Peter Blood
As far as I can tell, illegal immigrant families have been separated for many years. It's just that some Presidents like G.W. Bush and Obama had problems with it, although the practice was enforced. People are sentenced to prison every day, and are separated from their families and children. No tears for them. They made their choice. These illegal immigrants knowingly violate U.S. Law by entering this country, so they shouldn't be whining about being separated from their families.

Here's an article I found that gives some info on the practice:

Separation of Immigrant Families Was Part of Deportation Under Obama

I know when my father and his family came to the U.S. in 1912 from Holland, and disembarked at Ellis Island, the men/boys were sent to one area, and the women/daughters sent to another area to be evaluated, and medically examined. My father had two brothers, so they all went with their father. That meant my grandmother was separated from the rest of her family until they were all cleared.

21 posted on 06/16/2018 8:22:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood
This was posted a while ago, but no one seems to have noticed it: The Truth about Separating Kids.

According to this article, children can be separated if there is no family relation to the adults, or of there is reason to believed the children are in danger such as child trafficking. Due to 1997 Flores consent decree, ICE can only hold minor for 20 days, period. Since children can not be legally held as long as adults, they are placed under HHS custody. Unless congress changes the law and there is a challenge that goes through he Federal courts, after 20 days children will have to be taken away form their families no matter what other policies are in place.

22 posted on 06/16/2018 8:22:53 PM PDT by Widget Jr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

There is no (?) Question
Mark in your post.


23 posted on 06/16/2018 8:26:47 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

Also, back in 2016, the Supreme Court doomed Obama’s immigration policy because the vote was tied 4-4. Under the proposal, adults in the United States illegally could remain if they meet certain residency requirements and have children who are American citizens or lawful permanent residents. It would also expand another program, now in effect, that allows young people to stay in the country if they were brought here under age 16.


24 posted on 06/16/2018 8:27:38 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

Then toss the Kiddies in with the scum if that is what CNN wants.


25 posted on 06/16/2018 8:43:55 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Blithering Intellectual.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

Yes, escort the illegal alien family unit back across the border from whence they came...problem solved.


26 posted on 06/16/2018 8:44:23 PM PDT by myerson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

The bill that the President signs will stop chain migration of extended family members, end the diversity lottery and get the wall built among other things.

The trolls who argue with fallacies and vulgar insults against President Trump’s decision are in favor of continuing immigration law as passed under the Bush and Obama administrations instead of tightening up against the flood (as the President and some members of Congress are doing). Several have even stated as much in this thread.

They’re open borders Libertarians. They’re globalists. They’re coastal free traitors. They’re Hillary’s voters. They love the incrementalism that brought the flood and hate any incremental move against it.


27 posted on 06/16/2018 8:45:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

O’Muslim did it. He is the one who put the kids in the dog kennels. He’s going straight to hell, not passing go, not collecting 200 dollars, just straight to hell.


28 posted on 06/16/2018 8:49:11 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( Trump is The Storm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

Great article on this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/?


29 posted on 06/16/2018 8:50:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Williams
"Just watched a FOX News crawl state directly “President Trump falsely stated democrats caused the separation of families at the border, despite ....” Directly called the president a liar. Who’s writing this stuff?"

There are many coastal and northeastern state business interests that are very attached to big imports, foreign labor and foreign relatives. Fox News is in or near New York and heavily sponsored by free traitors and slave interests, if I remember correctly. Fox News is conflicted between those sponsors (who want to push President Trump out of office) and viewers who want to see policies more pro-American again (to make America great again).

So yes, we're seeing much obfuscation and projection from the media now (and from anti-Trump infiltrators, many of them long term lurkers).


30 posted on 06/16/2018 8:52:09 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood
It is the same policy in the criminal justice system, yet the Left feels that these people coming in deserve special circumstances for crossing illegally.

And apparently so does our Bishop here in Tucson.

31 posted on 06/16/2018 8:55:50 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Horse heads work!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Deaf Smith

There IS a ? in the OP.

.


32 posted on 06/16/2018 9:06:58 PM PDT by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: plain talk
Here is a corollary to this saga

If Mrs DoodleBob and I were scofflaws and were pondering illegally entering Lichtenstein and thought the likelihood of us being separated from the little DoodleBobs was high, I think we'd stay at home.

To be fair, this threat of separation was small under the Obama regime. And, to be sure, a parent may face a Hobson's choice in staying in, say, North Korea vs risking separation. I get it.

But Mexico isn't NK - it's not a sh**hole, remember? And Trump has been around for about 18 months. So...The question not being asked is: what does it say about the parents, that they're willing to risk separation from their flesh and blood, in breaking the law?

33 posted on 06/16/2018 9:16:20 PM PDT by DoodleBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood

Jeff Sessions and his cabal could tell you. I believe it is a concocted narrative to make republicans look heartless in the fall. Sessions ignores the outrageous crimes of Hillary Clinton and lets Mueller and the FBI ruin lives yet he makes a stand on this? And a LOUD stand, even going so far as to quote scripture to back it up. It’s quite a script. And the media will gladly play their role.

Look for the cries to only get louder. But you’ll probably never get a clear answer to your question.


34 posted on 06/16/2018 9:19:13 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bramps

It’s obvious Sessions is in #sabotage mode. Magoo couldn’t do more damage to the Trump presidency and America if he tried.


35 posted on 06/16/2018 9:27:05 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: plain talk

Your explanation makes perfect sense. It is the reality of the situation. What makes me angry is that with this forged in steel understanding, there are those who use red herring arguments to muddle the logic. This is what you get when the Democrat party wants to import voters. They are doubled down on this battle.


36 posted on 06/16/2018 9:33:16 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the new cult of the Left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Electric Graffiti

The President does not share your viewpoint and if you were to follow the QAnon posts as well as the numerous links provided here you might actually find you are wrong.

In retrospect I feel that either you are just stuck mentally or a troll who knowingly wants Sessions to give out info he is restricted from to blow the cases out out of the water. No one could be tried until the IG report came out and the full one of right behind it, then the criminal investigations and prosecutions begin. anyone touting to bring cases now is feeling the heat and wants Sessions gone to throw a wrench into the whole thing.

And last, you try and claim that he is damaging the President, news flash he works for DJT and it i his job to fire him if needed.

So put up, or shut up


37 posted on 06/16/2018 9:34:57 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: 100American

If you haven’t figured out by now that the “trust sessions” “trust the ig” types on the internet ARE FULL OF SH!T, you’re mentally ill, drug addled or both.

The IG report was a COMPLETE WHITEWASH. No criminal referrals at all. Even if they made a criminal referral, the deep state compromised rat bastard leprechaun in charge of the DOJ wouldn’t act on it.

Btw...you know damn well why Trump doesn’t fire Jeff Sessions. Pull till ya hear a pop.


38 posted on 06/16/2018 9:45:44 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Lean-Right

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 made it easier to deport illegal aliens. While these aliens await their deportation hearing, they are held in detention. Their children are separated from their parents because the detention facilities are a hostile place for children. However, I did not find in the descriptions of this act any language prescribing the course of action for the children.


39 posted on 06/16/2018 9:46:36 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the new cult of the Left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Captain Peter Blood
New Policy:

1.

1.The United States WILL NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY APPLICATIONS FOR CITIZENSHIP AT THE BORDER. Asylum seekers can file papers at any US Embassy IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY

2. Unaccompanied minors will be put on a bus and sent back to their home cities. Parents will be billed for the ticket.

Problem solved.

40 posted on 06/16/2018 9:46:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama said clingers. Hillary vomited deplorable. FBI used lazy POS. Trump calls us Americans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson