Posted on 06/10/2018 3:21:25 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
"Save my heroes from suicide."
Prince Harry has raised serious concerns about the number of British soldiers committing suicide after returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Prince confided his fears about a recent surge in suspected suicides in a private letter to a decorated former war hero. His intervention comes as an investigation by The Mail on Sunday reveals veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are now taking their own lives at a faster rate than their comrades died on the battlefield.
At least 12 veterans are feared to have killed themselves since the start of the year – one every 13 days. In contrast, troops in Iraq and Afghanistan between 2001 and 2014 were killed in hostile action at a rate of one every 14 days.
Kensington Palace last night confirmed that Harry had expressed concern in a letter sent to Colour Sergeant Trevor Coult, 43, a leading campaigner on veterans’ issues.
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We've always had these men coming back from war. Jesse and Frank James were Civil War vets. Hell's Angels were WW II vets who didn't want to be shut up in an office or bossed around by petty tyrants.
The men and women who went to Iraq or Afghanistan are no less tough nor hardcore than the men who went off to all our previous wars.
Ditto about the Dad who had nightmares. WW2 bomber pilot, then a prisoner of war. Sometimes the sounds he made on awakening from a nap were quite frightening. Yet he wouldn’t talk about the war except to tell me that he wasn’t tortured in the German POW camp.
I don’t think I am. Feel free to disagree.
People in the U.K. and the U.S.A. need to stop disrespecting veterans and stop pushing them out of colleges, universities, jobs and families. Those evil activities are done in sneaky and dishonest ways, but they are very common. The motives are often vanity, envy and hatred against men in general (even by more effeminate men), and men with prior service stand out as men.
The Vets aren’t broken, our society is. We simply don’t know how to deal with these men and women after they come back. There is a gigantic disconnect between the American public and the people who fight these wars.
Others in this thread should take note of what you said, because that’s the jist of it. Referring to our Soldiers and Marines as “snowflakes” is inappropriate.
Thx for the ping
The Vets coming back from Iraq and Saudi have been treated vastly better than the Vietnam vets. When I left Afghanistan, I was told to wear my uniform as long as possible so I could get free drinks. I switched into jeans and T-shirt as soon as I legally could.
Iraq & Afghanistan vets have great college benefits. The schools know and want the money. They are NOT being pushed “out of colleges, universities, jobs and families”!
George Carlin, may not have been right on everything, but he was right on this....
“Shell Shock”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSp8IyaKCs0
Israel doesn’t have this problem nearly as bad. Almost everyone serves in the armed forces and the country is constantly on a war footing. The civilian population there doesn’t view returning soldiers as “other” or take some kind or weird pity on them like they have to be fixed. Basically everyone in that country is in the same boat.
Agreed. Isreali armed forces also aren’t as restrained as ours during Obama. They don’t have the toxic leadership we’ve had from field grade officers up to secretary of defense.
“Marines are at war, America is at the mall.”
The one thing that will happen in this environment of anti-gun rights is that this will fuel the call for veterans with ANY type of mental health record will be on the no-gun list. I had to see a VA shrink back in the 90's as part of the Agent Orange registry exam. Vets will have to not go anywhere near a VA health facility or Dr if they want to ever go hunting or have a gun for protection. The anti-gun crowd is hammering the mental health aspects really hard as a way to eliminate gun rights.
He's 100% right. Now we call it a "disorder".
there is a statistical issue going on here that is being dramatized by the media.
the presentation is that Vets are suiciding in vast amounts.
people think of the sandbox wars and young men unable to cope after coming home. There is that, but the greatest number of vets committing suicide is the 55-70 year old males who are statistically the most likely group to commit suicide in any demographic study.
This age subgroup is committing suicide not because they are vets but because they are in an age range where suicide is common across all men for a plethora of reasons.
I disagree with what Carlin said. It’s not something that we should believe entertainment media about. Contrary to what he said everybody doesn’t know. Everybody knows squat.
Shell shock was physical and included hearing loss, inner ear problems and head injuries.
Combat fatigue is just that: exhaustion from extents of exertion and lack of sleep that civilians and many REMFs know nothing of. It’s very often simulated in training to make sure that soldiers won’t harm a mission by doing something wrong. During initial training, a very small percentage of enlisted soldiers, Marines, SEALs and others in particular specialties in our military forces are kept mostly awake for a week in the field. It’s a test.
During the Viet Nam war, the fabricated purely mental problem was called “delayed stress syndrome.” I’ve encountered several who lied about what they did in Viet Nam. Combat specialty soldiers generally stay in the field, run patrols and don’t have access to drugs or alcohol.
Now, mental “health professionals” and so-called journalists are confusing head injuries with the same conjured mental condition and calling it “post-traumatic stress disorder.”
The problem has been and is a problem caused by many people who are trying to disrespect enlisted and prior enlisted combat soldiers, Marines and others. The problem is further propagated by many who simply don’t know the truth.
IMO, we should stop disrespecting enlisted and previously enlisted men in real combat specialties (those who spent *most* of their time training to go on combat patrols).
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