Posted on 06/04/2018 11:50:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
... In Berlin, Macron’s proposals were met with a combination of skepticism and fear, especially among Merkel’s conservative base.
Though no country has benefited more than Germany from the currency union, many Germans remain convinced that much of the rest of Europe — particularly the Mediterranean states — is trying to pick its pockets. The Greek bailouts, which cost Germany little in the grander scheme of things, only hardened that impression.
In fact, for much of the German establishment, Macron’s ideas are nothing less than an open invitation to raid Berlin’s treasury.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.eu ...
btw, bookmarked.
The ties that bind the countries and cultures of Europe are not economic, but spiritual and moral. Germany and France must recover their spiritual roots - their Christianity in a genuine way.
Germany and France are secular government systems, which is what this thread addresses.
Though no country has benefited more than Germany from the currency union, many Germans remain convinced that much of the rest of Europe — particularly the Mediterranean states — is trying to pick its pockets. The Greek bailouts, which cost Germany little in the grander scheme of things, only hardened that impression. In fact, for much of the German establishment, Macron’s ideas are nothing less than an open invitation to raid Berlin’s treasury.
The French have sided with Merkel against the UK during the past two French gov'ts, one of the reasons Brexit was approved by British voters. Now the Devil has turned 'round on them, and they have no complaint coming. Thanks Berlin_Freeper.
It has become ever clearer to me that a distinction must be made between “Europe” and the “European Union.”
One is a classical Christian civilization made up of many peoples and cultures with ancient roots and the other is “Soviet Union-lite” forged only a few decades ago based around hollow economic agreements.
“Europe” and the “European Union” are indeed two different things. So one can be for Europe and yet against the European Union.
I remember being in Greece and holding a drachma (their former currency) in one hand and a euro in the other...
The euro felt so vague and soulless. The drachma had character and history.
Symbolic.
The roots of the European Union are actually in the prevention of further wars in Europe. You know, Christian values, as opposed to WW1 and WW2 which were about as far from Christian as people can get.
The French have sided with Merkel against the UK during the past two French gov'ts, one of the reasons Brexit was approved by British voters.?
“Soviet Union-lite”See post #9: David Cameron was allowed to renegotiate UK's membership and came away contented on a deal for the UK.
Just felt up a bunch of euro coins. Feels great to me!
Indeed. The turning away from faith far preceded even the First World War and even so-called Christians were guilty of hating the Jews. The French Revolution inspired the even more gruesome Russian one and many more...
The tyranny of Mein-Kampf Darwinism and Antichrist Marxism definitely took their toll on the continent.
The secular truce of the E.U. had its place. Like a bandage does. But it is not enough to hold the bones of cultures together.
Now it’s time for each country to revisit their past, understand how they came to it, and rediscover their lost souls.
As I said earlier, holding a drachma (Greece’s former currency) in one hand and a euro in the other...the euro was vague and soulless. The drachma had character and history.
A pox on all their houses.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 is to be awarded to the European Union (EU). The union and its forerunners have for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe.
Europe instigated two world wars before the EU was created. Europe was a mess long before the EU.
All about feelings.
“...The Greek bailouts, which cost Germany little in the grander scheme of things, ...”
When I read that I wondered what the heck the author meant. It cost plenty, but the author’s thinking seems to be, what the heck, just print more money.
The EU concept is unworkable and is doomed to fail. It’s like a family with a hard working wage earner living with a bunch of lazy drunks and drug addicts. The wage earner brings home the bacon and the others sell it out the back door to buy alcohol and cocaine.
What the article alludes to but does not directly address is:
Difference between fiscal and monetary policy:
Monetary policy involves changing the interest rate and influencing the money supply. Fiscal policy involves the government changing tax rates and levels of government spending to influence aggregate demand in the economy.
As long as each country has control over its own fiscal policy the “union” is in name only.
Europe is dying due to its humanist marxist hubris.
It’s sad that such a self-inflicted wound is killing off its old tradition culture heritage treasures.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/07/12/why-europe-needs-more-migrants
*the Economist mag is a Rothschild banking family publication which is adored by euro-elites.
Marxist inspired socialism, womb-to-tomb humanist state care, eliminates the need for marriage and extended family, relies on killer redistributive taxation, ie: 22% Vat sales tax, high income tax, high fuel tax ($8 / gal of petrol).
Modern europe birth rates have plummeted, and now EU elites are “forced” into bringing MILLIONS of African and Middle-east unassimilatable muslim savages to serve as taxpayers to support the EU gov’t insatiable beast.
Europe gets worse each year.
Which as an outsider is tragically funny, because such smart people should have known their collectivist scheme was unsustainable folly.
It’s tragically sad that the tens of thousands of native European citizens that are raped, beaten, acid-attacked, and murdered by muslim immigrant savages have to suffer because of elite’s “mistakes”.
This is WW3 and the EU (ie: Germany) if not stopped is winning. Message loud and clear....until Hungary elected a leader that wasn’t bought off, votes didn’t matter in the EU.
Cameron wasn’t content. He could hardly come out publicly though and say Britain was getting a bad deal right before the referendum when he was the champion for the Remainers. He told the others in the EAu that the danger of secession was real unless they would agree to show some flexibility on Britain’s concerns. They essentially said “take it or leave it.” Then they were shocked when British voters said “we’ll leave it then.”
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