Posted on 05/28/2018 3:15:12 PM PDT by zeestephen
Trump: "For the farmers its going to get really good. We're going to let your guestworkers come in, because we have to have strong borders, but we have to let your workers in.....But we're gonna let them in because you need them....Guestworkers, don't we agree? We have to have them."
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?444641-1/president-trump-remarks-michigan-rally&start=2016
Trump gave this speech a month ago, but I completely missed it.
I searched Free Republic before posting this, but I could not find any relevant hits.
I’m sure not rushing anywhere to pick lettuce, oranges, grapes or strawberries.
Don needs to lose this idea.
The cheap labor gang is obviously telling him the agribiz people need slaves.
But that’s the start of the bad stuff.
Tell the welfare cases, the “inner city yutes” they have a job to do in the fields. They don’t like it, no government freebies.
And the farmers? If they can’t manage those people, or work the land with their own families, they can sell the dirt and leave.
My family worked the mid-western plains as original settlers, didn’t need any slave help. We left the South because of that, and we don’t need the soft version now.
The current quota for H-2B (unskilled non-agriculture) workers is 66,000. However, that 66,000 does not include previously approved H-2Bs who return to work in the USA within a certain time period.
Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3658671/posts
give the jobs to those on welfare now who are able-bodied
THEN AND ONLY THEN if more workers are needed then let more foreigners in.
a third of this country is on welfare ... some are kids, some are persons with genuine disabilities.... i get all that.....
but SOME (a pretty good number) are able to work. let’s take care of that problem FIRST before importing more foreigners, please Pres. Trump!
WE DO NOT NEED GUEST WORKERS!!!
I hope our President learned a lesson here:
‘Trump’s praise of the program during his Michigan speech drew no enthusiasm from the crowd.
‘Trump was only met with applause after he clarified that “we need people to be able to come into our country, do your jobs, help you on the farms, and then they go out, they’re going to leave.”’
No, Mister President, we do not agree. What we have to have is American jobs for American citizens ... like the ones who put you in office.
A year before I graduated high school I worked the potato sheds every summer. Hard work. Paid great. Everyone out there was white. I made my money that way for about 4 summers and slowly but surely watched the Mexicans coming in. The next summer the manager called me to see if I wanted to work and I said sure and showed up. Lasted half a day. Every worker in the place was Mexican, spoke Spanish, and made it known I was the outcast.
That's a valid point, Vet.
On the other hand, low skill work visas are just a slightly camouflaged version of outsourcing to a foreign country.
However, because the product is perishable, and costly to ship, the American employers “in-source” the labor.
Instead of investing in labor saving machines, the American AG companies intensely compete against each other on the basis of low cost labor.
No, it’s a good idea. You may not know this, but these quays used to be higher, and one of the reasons for the Latin American “illegals” is that they used to be legal but Obama took a huge percentage of their quotas and have it to “refugees” from “Muslim lands.” This was literally one of his first executive orders when he took office in his first term.
And unless we’re going to reinstitute slavery, there’s no way of getting the “yutes” or the white trash opioid bums to go out and pick vegetables or do anything useful.
Bring back a reasonable legal quota system. Construction here has nearly ground to a halt for lack of labor (which is not badly paid btw). People would hire native born workers but there aren’t any.
Good bye midterms if Trump okays that treason .
See tagline.
Agriculture has been slow to automate compared to other sectors largely because they’ve been using sub-market labor, subsidized heavily by taxpayers—now and into the future.
Make jobs attractive and pay decently and you can have the workers you need anywhere.
This is a massive sellout if Trump is flipping as the speech suggests. My guess is he was in part primarily pandering, but still little has been accomplished on this massive issue that he rode into office since he actually got into office.
If they are actually needed here is the program that was in place until 1964:
“The Bracero Program (from the Spanish term bracero, meaning “manual laborer” or “one who works using his arms”) was a series of laws and diplomatic agreements, initiated on August 4, 1942, when the United States signed the Mexican Farm Labor Agreement with Mexico. The agreement guaranteed decent living conditions (sanitation, adequate shelter and food) and a minimum wage of 30 cents an hour; it also allowed the importation of contract laborers from Guam as a temporary measure during the early phases of World War II.[1] The agreement was extended with the Migrant Labor Agreement of 1951, enacted as an amendment to the Agricultural Act of 1949 (Public Law 78) by Congress,[2] which set the official parameters for the bracero program until its termination in 1964.[3]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_program
Make jobs attractive and pay decently and you can have the workers you need anywhere.
Yup - all basic economics.
Re: “Make jobs attractive and pay decently and you can have the workers you need anywhere.”
The best proof for that is petroleum engineers.
They have been the best paid engineers in the world for decades - primarily because they work in horrid climates, or horrid geography, or in politically dangerous countries, and because they are often separated from their loved ones for months at a time.
I smell all the concern trolls coming out of the muck......
Re: “I smell all the concern trolls coming out of the muck.”
If Conservatives don’t hold Trump’s feet to the political fire, who will?
It worked on George W. Bush. No reason to think it won’t work on Donald Trump.
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