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Vanity - DOJ/FBI totally broken by Obama/Clinton & Company. Needs complete do over.

Posted on 05/05/2018 8:24:55 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX

DOJ & FBI, corrupt from top to bottom, A-Z. Needs complete overhaul and change of "all" top management. This fact is so obvious, even the most stupid of human beings gets the picture.

Bottom line...Obama is at fault, 100%!!! Americans wake up..your freedom is at stake, Obama's goal was to destroy the American Nation Republic.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidvanity; comeysessions; jamescomey; lisabarsoomian; lisapage; michaelcohen; mueller; peterstrzok; robertmueller; rodrosenstein; rosenstein
Comments, please!!!
1 posted on 05/05/2018 8:24:55 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The problem is two fold a voting public that would choose an Obama and a Congress (Particularly the opposition GOP!) that rubber stamps his appointment choices. They piously intone, “The President should get the people he wants!”.


2 posted on 05/05/2018 8:38:12 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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“Obama’s goal was to destroy the American Nation Republic”

Actually, I think his goal was exactly what he said it was - to ‘fundamentally transform’ America. He said it, and many thought it was just a campaign slogan of sorts. It wasn't.

3 posted on 05/05/2018 8:39:00 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Well...the Bush “Islam is the Religion of Peace” crowd has also done their part. The only REALISTIC way to correct the FBI is to have American Patriots placed in charge of hiring decisions for new FBI employees — for A VERY LONG TIME.


4 posted on 05/05/2018 8:40:54 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Totally agree. Abolish and start over.


5 posted on 05/05/2018 8:46:11 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I'm reposting an idea from March 2018.


I'm reposting an earlier post on a potential solution to the FBI Problem.

As I was reading this article (As D.C. Corruption Mounts, Here’s How The American People Can Get Justice), I was beginning to think of a solution that was close to where the author ended up.

What if the FBI were disbanded as a federal agency, and replaced by a different organization that was populated by the states themselves? Each state would delegate a number of investigators to serve at the pleasure of their home state, and this body would become a federal investigative bureau.

As is with the militia, the Constitution provides for calling up the militias for national service, but the officers are selected by the states. It might not be a stretch to declare that state militias have investigators as a component of a military police, and then use the militia clause in the Constitution to call up the state militias' investigative arms for federal service, with state appointed officers.

Each state can create a branch of their militia as MPs, or detectives. These people would report to militia officers appointed within each state, and then these militia branches (officers and detectives) would be called up at the request the Commander-In-Chief and approval by Congress (Article I Section 8: "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,") to serve a national priority such as investigating a particular federal crime, under the authority of state officers, not federal bureaucrats. The state officers will report directly to the Commander-In-Chief (Article II Section II: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States"). Once the investigation is complete, the investigating team is released back to the states. If a crime occurred in one state, then the militia police from another state can be called up to investigate. Several investigations across several states can operate in parallel, if needed.

I have done process reviews and root cause analyses in my past, and what we look for are systemic causes of failures, not behavioral causes. Part of that review is identifying the protective systems that were in place to prevent what happened from happening, and to brainstorm additional protective systems to catch whatever still slipped through.

Lax management enforcement of process compliance might be a systemic cause if the fix were to reinforce the importance of process compliance and put consequences on management for lack of process discipline. However, in the recent examples of FBI failure, management was not lax in oversight, they were also complicit actors in avoiding the process. This is still behavioral, so the systemic root cause is not yet found.

I'm going to suggest that the systemic root cause of the recent FBI disfunction is the "independent" nature of the FBI itself. This was magnified by the behavioral causes that top management felt they were unaccountable to anyone, and that a single ideological mindset became established through years of political appointments that controlled the hiring practices of lower-level staff. Using management reinforcement to correct the root cause is ineffective given that management is a part of the problem. Therefore, we must look to other protective systems for corrections.

One protective system is the Inspector General. While this seems to be working now, in hindsight it doesn't seem to have been effective at the time the actions were taking place. When the bad actors are the top management itself in a department, an IG is too easily bypassed. Therefore, a new protective system must be put in place.

My proposed corrective system is to replace a federal-centric FBI with a state-centric investigative agency. This agency would have distributed leadership, since by following the militia model in the Constitution, the "officers" would be selected by the states and would be subject to recall at the whim of the home state. A single monolithic mindset cannot become entrenched, since concerned states can replace their officers at any time.

I suggested attaching this investigative militia to the Commander-In-Chief directly on a case-by-case basis, with some provision for a senior officer hierarchy to manage separate state contingents. Since Congress has the authority to call up the militia, but the President is the Commander-In-Chief of the militia, there is a check-and-balance already in place. If a state investigative team finds evidence of a crime, the President can refer charges to the Department of Justice for further prosecutorial action.

There would be no need for a Special Prosecutor, as the investigative arm of the called up militia units can do this. The Department of Justice can aid the investigations with grand juries, and criminal referrals would be passed along to the Department of Justice for action.

The President can then release the militia units back to the states, preventing a runaway special prosecutor from expanding the scope of the investigation. "Process crimes," such as lying to the FBI, would go away as an especially nefarious tool of an over-zealous prosecutor.


-PJ

6 posted on 05/05/2018 8:54:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

You will get no argument here. We can not make America great again while we have this corrupt shadow government operating behind the scenes.


7 posted on 05/05/2018 8:55:43 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

You are correct.


8 posted on 05/05/2018 8:58:16 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Okeydoker

I really thought and believed that Jeff Sessions would come around and unrecuse himself from his original folly. But...alas...I was dead wrong. He is both one of the Obama America destroyers and as weak as a limp wash rag. He has done nothing but play the “yes sir” puppet role for Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein who thinks he is a human God and above the POTUS.

All of these “Obama/Clinton” low life, scum & vermin, Democrat Party, Traitors and Turncoats need to be fired immediately and, sent to trail and then jailed as required by law!!!


9 posted on 05/05/2018 8:59:44 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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Just my opinion but the FBI needs to be burned to the ground.


10 posted on 05/05/2018 9:04:30 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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POTUS drew 35,000 fans last week in Michigan, Yesterday Trump drew 11,000 fans at the NRA speech and a total of 86,000 at the NRA Conventinon in Dallas, Texas. He is expected to draw easily 35,000 fans, next week in Indiana. This powerful election rally response will erupt across the entire nation...wherever he goes.

His approval popularity is now at 51% and climbing rapidly. Now, is the time to do some serious “Kick Butt” in the DOJ/FBI criminals. Do it....Trumpie...we the American people are behind you, 100%.


11 posted on 05/05/2018 9:08:48 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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Just scrap it all.

We do not need agencies that abuse the power we entrusted them with to endanger our freedom.

To Hell with them all.

No do over.

Just done.


12 posted on 05/05/2018 9:16:28 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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DOJ is merely the most conspicuous but -every- agency of gov’t and all quasi-gov’t organizations have been thoroughly captured by the Clintons. I blame GWB for leaving the first planting in place to seed the Obama crop. Kudzu-commies.


13 posted on 05/05/2018 9:26:23 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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If you wanted to de­stroy Amer­ica: Here’s how, in eight easy steps
14 posted on 05/05/2018 9:43:57 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Malignant Moral Cancer on Society!)
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“Vanity - DOJ/FBI totally broken by Obama/Clinton & Company. Needs complete do over.”

And possibly the least competent people in the country are going to do it? I won’t mention any names (Sessions).


15 posted on 05/05/2018 10:53:00 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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16 posted on 05/05/2018 10:59:33 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Trump Considers Disbanding or Gutting FBI; Wray’s FBI “Might Be a Lost Ship”

https://truepundit.com/trump-considers-disbanding-or-gutting-fbi-wrays-fbi-might-be-a-lost-ship/

With President Donald Trump’s vast corporate background, this could serve as a sensible remedy to neutralizing the FBI’s bad actors. And boosting public confidence in federal law enforcement.

Radical times call for radical measures. But, when examined, gutting the bloated FBI isn’t such a silly endeavor. According to insiders, the nip and tuck could include:

Cut the approx $9 billion FBI budget
Implement accounting safeguards to allow lawmakers to quickly view ‘black budget’ Intel expenditures; RE: Fusion GPS, Steele
Chop the current FBI up and move sects to Homeland Security, DEA, and other qualified law enforcement agencies.
Re-assign problematic actors to roles with new agencies, away from their power base inside the FBI’s corrupted infrastructure.
In corporate board-room lingo, executives would call this a more “robust” FBI.

“In recent years there was serious talk of merging the FBI and DEA,” one law enforcement official said. “The quickest way to fix the FBI might be to reverse that type of approach, cut it up like a pie.”


17 posted on 05/05/2018 12:32:50 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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There might be something in favor of repealing civil service entirely. Give the President back the power to fire anybody in the executive branch.

You might say that a future Dem Pres will abuse this power. Well, the Dems have the power anyway. They have not hesitated to eliminate people who they thought might oppose their agenda, whether by making their lives miserable, or other means. This just levels the playing field.


18 posted on 05/05/2018 3:48:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

FBI positions are “accepted service” positions as are all of the IC (plus attorneys). This means they serve at the pleasure of the executive, that is the POTUS. In almost all cases POTUS delegates that “hire & fire” authority down to the respective directors but ultimately he still has the authority. The issue is not the law or constitutional authority, the issue is the will!

Given the “interesting times” we live in there is a practicality issue. If he does it. Trump will immediately be taken to federal court, and the judge will be “shopped” by the Rats. I have to assume that someone has done the calculation and thinks now is not the time. Bigger battles to fight first!

And remember GOP voters haven’t exactly helped! That Alabama fiasco made Trump’s job politically harder!


19 posted on 05/05/2018 4:13:26 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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