Who is #Qanon? (really interesting 19:30 video)

YouTube ^ | 4/27/2018 | Titus Frost

[Beave Meister]

This is just my take on the entire Q Anon situation. I attempt to break down what Q Anon is, who created and who took it over.

[Enchante]

"One of the biggest examples off the top of my head is North Korea. We knew about Trump meeting with Kim in the forbidden city and making a deal with him weeks before any word of it came out."

That is still complete speculation and extremely extremely unlikely. POTUS Trump was only in Beijing for around 24 hrs and had an extremely packed schedule with the Chinese leaders. There has been zero evidence that Kim Jong Un slipped into China at that time, we have only Q's "word" for it.

Also, the whole process of any "deal" between the USA and NK has been much more halting and tentative than your comments suggest. Is it "possible" that there is some super duper top secret deal that has already been wrapped up from a secret meeting btw Trump and Kim Jong Un in Nov. 2017???? Well zillions of things are "possible" but there has been zero public evidence of this, and much indication to the contrary.

Public statements from Trump, Pompeo, NK, SK, and the Chinese have NOT given any evidence that Trump and Kim ever met or that there is ANY definite deal on the table between the USA and NK. Yes, Kim tells SK he is ready to talk peace and denuclearize, but we may be very far from any verifiable, comprehensive deal. POTUS Trump has indicated that all the details remain to be seen. So we don't really know if there will be a deal or not. NK could be playing more deceptive games, as they have many times in the past. The signs are hopeful that they understand that they cannot get away with b.s. toward POTUS Trump, but the Q-team claims that there was any secret meeting between Trump and Kim and/or that there has been any firm and complete deal between Trump and Kim are, so far, complete and utter speculation ... aka..... smoke, blowing smoke.

I'd say the chances that Trump has already met with Kim are vanishingly small to zero. If anyone has any evidence to the contrary they should present it. So far, we have only Q's words, not any EVIDENCE.

[Fantasywriter]

Here are a couple of Q drops. The first is from March 28, and supposedly refers to Ryan:

>>815836

Done in 30.

House cleaning.

WH secured.

Final stage.

Q

This one supposedly means McCain is out. Looks like Q's crystal ball jumped the gun:

Apr 30 2018 09:41:16 (EST) !xowAT4Z3VQ Q ID: 04475a

1247406→

No name out.

Now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/990953165267681281

We love good singers.

Q

[bagster]

Poor Enchante. You sound like CNN. You really do. Go read your comment again. Such a naïve boy.

Dude. The deal is done. Only a sucker like you can't connect the dots. But tell you what. You go on believing what makes you happy to believe. Wait for the "evidence" to be spoon fed to you by the mainstream media.

And I will remain light years ahead of you. Let me rephrase. Trump and Kim have met. FACE TO FACE. At which time, an overall deal was struck. Denuclearization and rapprochement with South Korea. I wont go so far as to say 188% reunification, but it remains a possibility. But most assuredly denuke and peace treaty.

Peace will have consequences. Positive ones. Reunification may or may not come later. My crystal ball hasn't told me yet. But when it does, I'll try to remember to email your naïve ass with the news.

Do you know about the Middle East? Or are you still stuck on CNN time?

Oh, wait. Let me clear something up for you. Try as you might, you won't be able to find where Q SAID that Trump met face to face with Kim. That's not how this works, as I've previously told you. You know who said it? Bagster did. And Bagster has 188% that he is correct.

Now is where you say, See! See? You're just making that shit up. You have no EVIDENCE!!!!

That's right, big boy. I don't. And you just go on waiting to hear about it on CNN for your evidence. I'll just smile and move along.

[Iran] is next. And in progress. You ponder on North Korea wile the grownups handle that one for you. I'm sure CNN is working on presenting you with all the evidence of what's going on. Haha.

Bagster

[Enchante]

You create fictional worlds without evidence. You don’t even seem to understand mundane stuff like “facts” and “evidence” and “knowledge” and “reality.” What you call “connecting the dots” is what far more knowledgeable people call “just making stuff up as you go.”

[bagster]

Done in 30.
House cleaning.
WH secured.
Final stage.

Yep. A few people read that as Ryan out. Others, like me, interpreted it to mean the White House was secure. Where do you come up with your stuff, Fantifa?

By the way, Ryan IS out. Why? Do you know??? To spend more time with his family, ya think? Hahahahaha.

You don't like the McCain one either? You think NOW means RIGHT now? By God, you're stoopit. I interpret that to mean that it is a certainty NOW that McCain is out. As you may or may not know (I'm thinking you didn't know based on your dumb statements to date) that the McCain camp had been denying rumors that he was "out" for quite a while. NOW we know.

Come on, man.

Oh. And by the way. Ryan out and McCain out are good news. Maybe not to you, but to patriots.

Bagster

[bagster]

Yep. I expected you to respond thusly.

Like I said, Enchante. You keep living in a CNN world. I'll try to remember to let you know what's really going on. Or not. It may amuse me to keep you floundering about sputtering about "evidence" and "facts."

In the meantime. You keep waiting for the New York Times to privde your evidence. Or maybe Fox News is more your cup of tea?

I'll just keep "making stuff up" over here.

:)

Bagster

[Enchante]

Yes, we all love that Ryan and McVain are on their way out, but Q’s cryptic bs-ing is just a joke. Ryan has been telling colleagues for YEARS that he would not stay in the House too much longer, and McVain is frickin’ DYING of a brain tumor. We need Q to tell us they are on their way out when it was already very widely known that they were/are on their way out? This is silly stuff.

[bagster]

...far more knowledgeable people...

Oh, that's rich.

Keep telling yourself that.

Bagster

[bagster]

Ryan has been telling colleagues for YEARS that he would not stay in the House too much longer, and McVain is frickin’ DYING of a brain tumor. We need Q to tell us they are on their way out

Ryan was forced out, despite your naïve bleatings. Why? I havnet a clue.

And you're right. The McCain thing isn't a huge surprise, like the Ryan one was. Just a tidbit tossed out there. Anybody could have seen that one coming. But we now have confirmation. Which is nice.

I've moved on to other things, Ryan having been dealt with and the McCain situation assured. But you go on arguing the point in your effort to maintain your "more knowledgeable people" scenario.

If you want, you can be my mentor. Would you like so subscribe to the Bagster Gazette? It's a daily publication that may provide you with things you may or may not know. I'm predicting not, based on your attitude so far. I have a ping list, I can put you on.

Do I sound cocky? Sure. But it's an attitude come to honestly in the face of such startling naivete and assurance.

Bagster

[Fantasywriter]

‘You create fictional worlds without evidence. You don’t even seem to understand mundane stuff like “facts” and “evidence” and “knowledge” and “reality.” What you call “connecting the dots” is what far more knowledgeable people call “just making stuff up as you go.”’

This is exactly, detail for detail, what the Obots do. Obotism also has cultish features, btw. Their ground rules are that Obama is a superior being who is honorable inside and out and who never lies. If it *appears* that Obama has lied then this is merely a perception problem. The Obot will weave a fanciful, elaborate tale which always concludes with the same line: ‘So you see, Obama was telling the truth all along.’

In Obot-world, the definition of ‘evidence,’ is: anything an Obot can concoct with his/her unfettered imagination.

The definition of ‘fact,’ is: any product of an Obot’s imagination that works in Obama’s favor.

Not making anything up. I’ve interacted with Obots for years, and this is really how they operate.

Ditto Qers. Facts and evidence are based on two things: Q’s posts and the Qers’ imagination. Fact.

[Enchante]

I do not TRUST or rely upon CNN or NYSlimes or WaPo (beyond cursory consideration that I give to all relevant information), thank you. I examine myriad news sources but “Q-drops” are not a news source, they are anonymous mostly cryptic exclamations, assertions, prophecies, etc.

The arrogance of the Q-cult is what creates so much hostility around these topics. This is like trying to talk to people who are on a wild acid trip. Of course your “reality” will differ.

btw, you and edzo4 still fail to give any competent response to my #319. I show that “Q” is incompetent to discuss basic US naval strategy and carrier deployments wrt Asia. You and edzo4 just run away...... If Q is faking it about that, so elementary, then why exactly should we believe he is a knowledgeable insider about any of his stuff? He isn’t. He’s a LARPer, sometimes entertaining, sometimes not so much.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3652490/posts?q=1&;page=319

[Enchante]

better link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3652490/posts?page=319#319

[Enchante]

Thanks for the offer but I don’t do ping lists, nothing personal. I fluctuate too much in my absences here.

[bagster]

Every time Q folks claim super duper secret knowledge my b.s. detector goes off.

Of course it does. Because you at used to being the "smartest person in the room." Can't have that challenged, now can we. I expect that is the psychology of what behind a lot of the "science denying" of you anti-Q cultists. I've been studying this phenomenon for a while now. It's very interesting to me.

I do agree with you about the political ramifications of drastic action on the "swamp draining." And that's really the main purpose of the Q operation, as stated by Q himself. His "leaking" of information is intended to ready us, the people, for the things you say will cause upheaval.

A positive aspect of even your attitude is that, at least you are aware of the possibilities, no matter how you struggle against them right now. When things start to happen, you'll be all like, "huh. I guess that stuff wasn't bullshit" and you'll fall into line with those of us unplugged from the matrix.

In the meantime, just go along as you are. I'd rather have you on the team, because you at a very smart guy. It's just that your mind is locked up and unable to move ahead.

Which is fine, Enchante. I don't hold it against you. I really don't. You'll see that I'm right soon enough.

I'm a patient man.

Bagster

[bagster]

The burden of proof is on Q.

Future proves past.

Watch and see, Carloada. Watch and see.

I'm quite satisfied that things are going well and that "we are winning."

Despite the protestations of you negative nancies. Keep your axe sharp. You may be needed. In the meantime, leave the thinnin' to us, Bobalooey.

No disrespect, just harsh reality. The time for manners is over.

Bagster

[bagster]

Like I said all along, it is a belief system (cultlike, with its own "special" language). An amusing one, but a faith based "system".

That's a leap. I believe in baseball and like the Dodgers. You could say that I believe in baseball. If somebody comes along and says baseball is bullshit, it's rigged, it sucks, I'mm an idiot for liking baseball, I would argue with them.

Does my "belief" in baseball make people who also like baseball a "cult?"

You don't believe in Q. Is that "belief system" a cult? People say atheism is a religion because they don't believe in religion. Do you agree with that?

The same can be applied to any "belief system". What you believe doesn't always require "faith". Sometimes a preponderance of the evidence is enough to establish belief.

Anyway. Please stop saying stupid, unthought out shit to support your belief system. It just makes you sound like a flat earth, science denier, global warming believer. It really does. Keep your argument grounded in reality, if you can. ThanQ.

And keep your axe sharp. You may be needed. Rest your neck until then. We got this.

Bagster

[bagster]

Ghosts, bigfoot, UFO’s,

Can we please stay on topic? Conflating completely reasonable possibilities with well-established goofery is no way to make your point. It's desperate buffoonery. You can do better.

You stay amused. And you saying it "isn't anything" doesn't make it so. Words are wind, goodman. Words are wind.

Bagster

[eyedigress]

What position do you play on the Q team?

Left field or Catcher?

[bagster]

I sell peanuts to dopes like you who sit in the cheap seats while the game passes them by because they spend all their time talking smack on their cell phone and not paying attention.

Peanuts....Get your peanuts.....Dodger dogs....Cold beer...Ice cold beer....Dodger bob head dolls....

:)

Next question. I'm here all week.

Bagster

[eyedigress]

You sell peanuts for the Q team?

Well, you have to start somewhere.