Posted on 05/01/2018 9:16:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
As Germany prepares to mark Karl Marxs 200th birth anniversary, the revolutionary philosophers legacy remains divisive more than a quarter century after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
With scars from the Cold War still fresh, people from capitalist former West Germany and the once communist East are of two minds about the 19th-century philosopher. Some hail Marx as a visionary scholar who foretold the ills of the market economy, while others revile him for inspiring Stalinist regimes.
In the western town of Trier, the icons birthplace which is planning 600 events for his bicentenary, it is not lost on critics that the centerpiece of the celebrations is a gargantuan statue offered as a gift from communist China. [ ]
Karl Marx developed the foundation upon which all subsequent communist dictatorships have built until today, Dieter Dombrovski, president of the Union of the Victim Groups of Communist Tyranny, told AFP.
He wrote these works; sure, he did not implement them, but he developed the thought and the communist dictatorships implemented everything that he wrote word for word. According to our penal system today, if someone were to incite a person to commit murder, and if the other person carries out the murder, then the one who incited is also convicted, which is only right, said Dombrovski, who was once jailed by the East German dictatorship. More people were killed under communist regimes than under Adolf Hitler, he added. [ ]
Officials in Trier reject the accusations, arguing that Marx cannot be blamed for regimes which distorted his theories to their own ends.
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It's about becoming the oppressor.
Why are they going all out to celebrate Karl Marx?
Is this yet another political statement often made, to the effect that the theories of Marx are wonderful, it was just the implementation by a series of despots and tyrants which gave socialism and communism a bad name????
Officials in Trier reject the accusations, arguing that Marx cannot be blamed for regimes which distorted his theories to their own ends.
Their lying throats should be cut. Thanks Olog-hai.
[T]he first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.So by turning the tables in a class war, it can abolish a class war? Not how it works. But by advocating despotic inroads, Marx admits that the only goal is for the proletariat to become the oppressor.
The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.
Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionizing the mode of production. [ ]
If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a classif, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of productionthen it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.
Godless totalitarianism, what could possibly go wrong?
"It's never been tried."
Ha!
Historic tradition says that Trier was founded by none other than Nimrod. The rationalists rejected that tradition and have done their utmost to cover it up; given that this city spawned one of the biggest rebellions against God in the modern age, it’s not hard to fathom why.
By jove, Dilbert San Diego, I think you've got it!!!
“distorted his theories to their own ends.”
Oh yeah, it’s always “THEY JUST DIDN’T DO IT RIGHT”.
“But WE WILL!”
This is why this bastard is still being celebrated - the constant foolhardy belief that somehow, someone will make it work.
"Nobody has done it right yet!"
Yep; they still think that tearing down human society and rebuilding it by abolishing family, private property, religion and national borders (the pillars of human society) can work.
Herr Dombrovski has the right idea.
I wonder what kind of commemorations German —and American — universities will have.
Marx is more intellectually honest than his current supporters in the west. In order to convert from a free market economy to a centrally controlled communists economy the property and business owners will have to agree to give up their property (personal, intellectual, business) to the state.
Marx realized that it would have to be brought about by force. The dimwits today I guess believe that we’ll all just volunteer to give it up. Yeah, that’s gonna happen. I think the only time in history it ever happened was the 1871 Paris Commune which lasted a couple of months. Every other time, property was seized by force.
In a debate with a communist or anarchist, that is the question that I would ask. If we converted to a centrally controlled economy in America, how would you convince people to voluntarily give up all their possessions in order to be re-distributed by the state? If they are honest and say by force, then I would ask how are you any different than Stalin in the 20s? And they wonder why we love the 2nd Amendment....
Trier is a beautiful little city to visit. Very close to the French border. They have a lot of Roman ruins that date back to something like 500 ad to include a Roman gate, baths and even a coliseum where they had gladiator fights. Now we have another reason to visit, to throw eggs at the Karl Marx statue....
Marx is proof that if you have a crappy-enough idea, human beings are stupid enough to flock to it.
It helps though if your idea advances murder and totalitarianism.
What Marx and Engels are not honest about is the proletariat “abolish(ing) its own supremacy as a class” once they take absolute power and the state “wither(ing) away”. All-powerful totalitarian regimes always seek to perpetuate themselves.
Well said.
He’s responsible of the killing and misery of more people than anyone in history. Quite a legacy.
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