Posted on 04/25/2018 4:48:02 AM PDT by Norski
A pit bull bit a straphanger's foot during a chaotic subway ride captured on video and posted on social media.
Riders on the 4 train desperately try to get the dog to let go of the woman's foot.
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Good luck.
First off, you have to be tall enough to really lift up the dog, esp. if it’s a tall PBT (they are not supposed to be huge at all). 2nd, do you have the arm/shoulder strength to keep holding it?
3rd, a belt is wide and thus spreads the force over a large area. Will take a long time to “choke” the dog. Better to have a thin snare like the other poster stated. This is partly why regular old-fashioned dog collars don’t do well for restraining/correcting a dog, compared to a “choke” chain. The dog can tolerate the spread pressure on its neck (and that harness as with this dog spreads it even more - they are meant for the DOG pulling, as in draft dogs).
Not bad to try if you have nothing else, but still fraught with risks.
There was nothing about the PBT claiming to be a “service” dog.
But I agree. It’s BS.
“A dog doesn’t understand the concept of “BANG”.”
Some evidently do. I chased a whole pack of dogs off my property long ago with a .22 revolver. They ran as if the devil were chasing them as soon as I fired the first round into the dirt. They were following a bitch in heat and one of them that looked to be about half pit bull started at me in a trot as if he thought he could take me down. I fired the first round to hit about three feet in front of him and he reversed direction and the whole crew was out of sight in seconds.
“Pulling on the dog’s leash while it’s biting a woman’s foot seems like a poor strategy.”
Had a pit bull bite my hand at a local neighborhood garage. He pulled and instead of pulling back, I shoved my hand down his throat and he began gagging. I pushed even harder and he tried to run away but I had my other hand behind his head pushing forward. That dog never came near me after that.
Dogs legs are meant to go forward and back, but not sideways. By pulling the front legs apart, it causes them severe pain, just as it would a human when you force a joint to bend in a direction it is not made for. I’ve never had to use this as I get along with virtually all dogs, even the mean and nasty ones.... Can’t stand the little yappy ones, often referring to them as “shark bait.”
When dogs are fighting, never use your hands to separate them, always your foot and hopefully with workboots on them.
My only “bad” experience was not as bad as you. But I knew it was trouble.
20 years ago I had my most beloved excellent German Shepherd with me at an apartment complex, and she was 10 at the time. I was going to take her in daylight for a brief potty walk and opened the front door of our building, having her at heel and sitting since we had to stop. A man was walking his clearly PBT type on the sidewalk right in front. This dog immediately took a lunge for my dog complete with the growling and snarling; luckily it did not surprise/knock the man over and he kept “walking” by while his dog stayed same position trying to get to us, until the lead was too short for him and the man had to drag him away.
My dog alerted to this odd behavior but she did not move from her sit, nor did I move to indicate that. No way I was moving until this dog was much more down the street.
Not sure if that was the big turning point for me or if I’d already seen enough. I wrote a paper defending PBT types for my English class in college late ‘80s. Pretty much all the usual talking points. I’ve been there. By mid-’90s I changed my mind and just stopped feeling sorry for them or trusting them. Watching that dog hoping to tear apart my “soul mate” was just another nail in the coffin.
I hope never to see directly anything like some of these attacks.
“Do you honestly think that police dogs just keep going if some thug gets in a good shot?”
My german Shepherd kept protecting with several bullet holes in him. They are tough. Even under anesthesia he tried biting when I was cauterizing a severed artery that was squirting by his foot.
Some dogs, when in pain are more motivated to attack.
I usually read a dogs eyes and ear position. You can tell what they are thinking. The most unpredictable dogs are ones with fear in their eyes. Calm them first and most are ok.
Don’t count on it. Ever, either way. Dogs may be different from humans as a whole, but they are also different from each other - and it depends on what you’re firing, and from where, etc.
And just what are you up to that you’re getting shot at several times?
One late evening I drove to work to reset a server that went down. When I pulled up around 1 am I noticed some hybrid coyotes lingering about. I sat and watched them as about 100 more came charging around the corner chasing apparently one of their bitches in heat.
Equally astonishing was this occurred in a well lit area about 1/2 mile from UTC mall in San Diego. The area was a recently over developed business park.
PBT = PB with a press agent.
Considering all of the facts here, yours is right up there with the most ignorant statements I’ve ever read on FR, if not the most. You know little about animals and apparently less about laws governing the discharging of weapons in public.
Get it together.
Nope! Not a jury in this country would convict me of anything for using my lawful ccw firearm in self defense against an attacking pit bull. They have an awful reputation which is well earned and juries are not sympathetic to them. Knowing this, no DA in my state (NC) would charge me with any crime for shooting an attacking pit bull. The ignorance here is yours. You get it together.
So a dik-ish looking woman picks on a pitbulls owner ....dog attacks ...........play with fire you get burned!
There are four or five distinct breeds that are often called, collectively, "Pi Bulls." The ones that come to mind are American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), American Staffordshire Terrier (AST), and American Bull Dog. The AST looks a lot like the APBT but weighs in at about 70 lb., while the APBT runs about 40 lb. American Bull dogs can ge up to about 100 lb. The dog in the video looks like an APBT.
If you discharged a weapon in a crowd with other CCWs - to state nothing of a crowded mass transit vehicle - you would be facing the barrel of another’s weapon and facing liability & potential criminal charges for failing to secure your background.
Your emotional reaction to a news report and/or a theoretical is a red flag.
Again, you know nothing about animals and, it seems, even less about facts, especially of this ignorant post.
These are incredible stories and a crying shame it happens. Just about the same here. You can’t walk or ride a road in the area for fear of being attacked by dogs. They need to just be shot but it would cause rural war since the meatheads are so crazy about their stupid dogs.
The “service animal” thing is a crock of spit. If you are blind you get a guide dog otherwise forget about it. We were at a NPS recreation area last week and some woman came along with her obnoxious “service dog” that was just a grown puppy jumping, licking and bumping. She tried to bring it into the nature center but thankfully a ranger stopped her but she got all indignant. At a farm show last week some dope had his beagle “service dog” that left a trail of crap and piss all over the floor in the building.
Civility, common sense, respect for others and decency died long ago in this country.
If those dopes with dogs had a few law suits against them they might sing a different tune.
A springer spaniel, a dog inbred for insanity, attacked my son on his bike in our neighborhood when he was five and he has hated dogs ever since. I killed the dog eventually. That was a long time ago. My neighbors now know I have a one shot warning then a shoot to kill policy for dogs wandering on my property. We don’t have many wandering dogs around here. I have a full predator / field fence around the house and farmstead so if I am foolish enough to ever get a dog it will be kept up. For now the barn cats are all we need.
And just what are you up to that you’re getting shot at several times?
Not me... My dog.
We had a neighbor that shot every dog that came on his property. All of them, not just mine. Even beagles running rabbits during hunting season. We had neighboring farms and our exit road to the highway went through their farm. He was on a horse and shot my german shepherd.
The dog jumped up after the guy, bit the horses neck and held on as it reared up, threw the guy off and then ran down the road. The dog had three 22 LR’s in him and kept attacking (after being shot.) After that the dog would growl at the guy every time he saw him, but at no one else.
I grew up with that dog for 14 years. He was my playmate and was also my protector so I could venture into the woods alone while young and feel safe. We had no neighbors within 3/4 mile.
You dont see that $h!t happening where people carry guns to defend themselves.
Whoa...that’s an eye opening story. Never thought about from that perspective.
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