[SeekAndFind]

What about the House of Representatives? Excluding states that only get one representative as well as the District of Columbia, which gets zero, each member of the House represents 705,524.19 people. That makes it easy to calculate House membership under Draper’s proposal. North California would get 18 members, South California 19 and (Coastal) California 16.

Curiously, the conservative state would get more representatives than either of the other two. But note the total of 34 progressive representatives to 19 conservative representatives. (These figures assume total representation in the House would equal California’s current 53 members.)

[SeekAndFind]

So here’s how it would break down. Northern California would get districts 1, 2, 3, 4, 10 and the northern bit of 5 (basically Santa Cruz county). Coastal California gets the rest of 5 plus 7. And South California gets 6, 8, 9, 11, and 12.

While it’s tempting to look at the number of miles of highways in each new state that the transportation agency would have to manage, that’s a fool’s errand. Eastern California (at least down to King’s County) is home to some of the heaviest snowfall in the U.S. Currently the base at a Lake Tahoe ski area is 400 inches. The northwest part of the state is subject to heavy rain. In fact, Del Norte county gets an average of 132 inches of rain per year. Contrast that with Imperial’s annual average of 3 inches. Southeastern California is home to the Joshua Tree National Park, Death Valley, and a lot of desert. Add to all that the varying degrees of earthquake risk in various areas, and it’s easy to see that highway miles alone would not be a good predictor of likely costs.

[1Old Pro]

Can we get this in NYS? Split off the 5 burroughs?

[Jim from C-Town]

They can only petition the Federal government to accept the new states and their suggested borders. The state can not do this without the United States government accepting the break-up.

[Cobra64]

Sacramento and south should NOT be part of Northern California. Those are mostly conservative counties.

[truth_seeker]

Since the start of California, there was a rift between the North and South.

It is a fairly workable map.

[b4its2late]

New York should too, hopefully.

[ASOC]

If this goes thru - how long before Texas breaks into 4 more States - as they legally can do...
(https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/more-150-years-texas-has-had-power-secede-itself-180962354/)

Money quote from the article:
“We’re the only state that can divide ourselves without anybody’s permission,” says Donald W. Whisenhunt, a Texas native and author of the 1987 book The Five States of Texas: An Immodest Proposal. “That’s just the way it is.”

[Codeflier]

Wouldn’t the net senatorial effect be the same? 2 net progressive California senators, just like now. The other 4 would cancel each other out.

Also, this seems like a potential big win from an electoral college perspective!

That being said, no way this happens.

[spokeshave2]

What about the Senate...CA gets another 4 seats.,.?

[ScottinVA]

They’ve very slyly inserted the zoo that is the Bay Area into the NorCal section. The best anyone can hope for out of this is maybe the rare case of one GOP Senator in the SoCal state. Meanwhile the North Staters continue on unrepresented.

[factoryrat]

Nope. I say the US revokes California statehood, declares it a hostile territory, and installs a federal governor to administer the state. Once we clear out all of the mexican nationals who have invaded the state, and all of state officials that aided and abetted them, then we can consider letting California back into the union.

These leftist socialist-democrats aren’t going to get away with attempting to give California to mexico, no matter how hard they try.

[Lee25]

Its probably scheme of them to steal US Senate. If all three newly splitted states are democrats with each sending 2 Senators, the result is bad for GOP and Trump

[BlackAdderess]

It should be split in two. This just looks like lefty gerrymandering.

[Bubba_Leroy]

California should be divided, but only into two states, the red state and the blue state.

This would effectively neutralize California's current Democrat Senators and Congresscritters with an equal number of Republican ones.

[Amendment10]

Perhaps Southern California should be named North Mexico.

"This Fall, California Voters Could Decide Whether To Split Their State In Three"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Note that a state cannot be divided into smaller states without the consent of Congress.

"Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress [emphases added]."

And given the idea of North Mexico, it can be argued that the Progressive Movement is trying to further destabilize the Union by splitting California into smaller states, putting more Democrats in the Senate.

Note that although the states have expressly constitutionally delegated to Congress the specific power to intervene with renegade states that could destabilize the Union, we cannot expect the corrupt, post-17th Amendment (17A) ratification Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration to lift a finger to deal with such states.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections [emphasis added] and repel Invasions;"

This is why patriots need to finish the job that they started when they elected Trump president.

More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, patriots who will say no to North Mexico, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.

And until the states wake up and repeal 17A, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of the outcome of Alabama's and Pennsylvania's special elections, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud, associated MSM scare tactics, and interference from people like Soros.

Hacking Democracy - The Hack

[MIchaelTArchangel]

Um, no, the voters of California cannot decide to break their state into any number of states. The US Constitution requires the state legislature to the US Congress to make such decisions. See Article IV, Section 3 if the US Constitution: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the junction of any two States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as the Congress.:

[lepton]

While the devil is in the details, no single state should be able to get a candidate more than 10% of the way to the Presidency.

[FLT-bird]

Make it two states and just add San Jose, San Francisco, Oakland and Sacramento to what is labeled as “California”. That would work.

[theoilpainter]

Can the pass with a simple majority in the US House and Senate, or does it require a higher vote?