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Please all of you FReepers, read the article and watch the many YouTube videos that accompany it regarding a patented and controversial stroke treatment and give me your highly regarded personal opinions. Is it B.S. or Blessing? Hoax or Heaven-Sent? What say you? Thanks.
1 posted on 03/29/2018 7:47:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

What is your opinion?


2 posted on 03/29/2018 7:51:01 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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If it’s too good to be true...


3 posted on 03/29/2018 7:51:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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Hmmmmmmmm.


4 posted on 03/29/2018 7:58:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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I would need some highly technical medical details before giving an opinion on the likely validity of this treatment. The excerpt here contains none.


5 posted on 03/29/2018 7:59:13 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Sorry, I read a little. but they are not revealing any details, just want you to make an appointment.

That makes me a bit suspicious.

But it could still have value.

They do say it doesn’t work in all cases.

But, considering the seriousness of a stroke, ome might try it, just in case it may actually work. But wouldn’t spend your last dime on this.


6 posted on 03/29/2018 8:00:18 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Hoax.

Even if there were a way to repair dead nerves (and there’s not currently) it wouldn’t restore the memories of Alzheimer’s patients. The damage mechanism between Alzheimer’s and stroke patients is radically different (stroke kills the neurons and Alzheimer’s essentially clogs the pipes) one magical treatment won’t cure both types of damage.

That they’re claiming a cure for both AND a cure for Sciatica (which is a third time of neurological damage) is the tell.


7 posted on 03/29/2018 8:05:09 PM PDT by Skywise
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http://www.hbot.com/


10 posted on 03/29/2018 8:29:31 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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http://www.hbot.com/


11 posted on 03/29/2018 8:30:20 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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I would love it to be true. Strokes suck. My dad had a big one that took him five months to die from, almost completely incapacitated. He told me that the one way he didn’t want to die was from a stroke, and he got a bad one.

I would love this to be true. Don’t know if it is. Don’t know enough. Let’s put it this way, if I had a stroke, I would try it, no question. Don’t know if that is right or wrong, but I think I would.


12 posted on 03/29/2018 8:38:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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Treating the brain inflammation is important, but it is not a cure for stroke damage to brain cells. The video is interesting but without knowing anything about the patient or her condition, it is no more than a mere anecdote.

I work with stroke patients routinely, and believe me I would love for this to be the miracle it promises to be in the infomercial. But I’ll wait and see. If it is what it says it is, the mainstream of medicine will embrace it soon enough.

13 posted on 03/29/2018 8:45:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Billy Squier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_OGARBe6W0


14 posted on 03/29/2018 8:49:55 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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They do link to a PubMed abstract

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23100196

They claim that TNF is a factor in damaged neuro pathways and that embrel can reverse it. They seem to have clinical evidence to support their claim. Can’t speak for bias, etc of the research.


19 posted on 03/29/2018 9:36:53 PM PDT by Ceebass (RIP MAGA June 16 2015 - March 23 2018)
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Reading the papers and not finding the agents used.

The method is something that has been discussed and researched: Perispinal administration is a therapeutic method designed to use the cerebrospinal venous system to enhance selective delivery of etanercept across the blood–cerebrospinal fluid barrier.

I'm not buying it for damage that has already occurred previously or after the neuronal cascade of cell death. New onset trauma or reduced neuronal ATP would benefit.

I'll take it with a grain of salt, however translational medicine is in desperate need of promotion.

JMHO. JMMV.
21 posted on 03/29/2018 9:44:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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if it were true- every stroke victim would be given the treatment- and noone would suffer the consequences of a stroke- stroke damage would be a thing of the past


22 posted on 03/29/2018 9:49:19 PM PDT by Bob434
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Their Facebook Page:https://www.facebook.com/InstituteOfNeurologicalRecovery/


25 posted on 03/29/2018 10:07:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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The Institute of Neurological Recovery (INR) Is it B.S. or Blessing? Hoax or Heaven-Sent?

Looks like this "Institue" is nest of scamsters.

Check out the Ripoff Report website for a lengthy commentary on one poor soul's experience.

Complaint Review: Institute of Neurological Recovery

More victims are found on Yelp--a place where people can report these kinds of operations that target people in desperate health conditions.

Here's a couple of examples:

Yelp recently removed my old review about my experience dealing with this group because I was writing on behalf of 2 people who were stroke survivors (and couldn't type themselves). Nevertheless, I personally experienced the bad reputation of this place through their fake "free consultations". Don't believe it. They should just advertise upfront, it will be several hundred to see a doc for evaluation. The shot itself is an off-label use of etanercept (Enbrel) . See above complaint about the reprimand these guys agreed to under their bad business (medical) practices.

And this one:

Dad suffered a stroke leaving the left side of his body paralyzed and with double vision. He had an injection "procedure" done a week ago. Nothing...and I mean no effect. I knew it was a scam but after repeated attempts I didn't have the heart to keep trying to convince my dad that the injection wouldn't work. He had his hopes hung on this procedure. I did my research prior and everything I read explained why wouldn't work but they had my pops hooked. $700 for an "evaluation" that a school nurse could've performed and $6800 for a fake treatment...and from people who are not neurologists. Shameful.

Plenty more horror stories at the Yelp link below.

.Run--do not walk--from this Venus flytrap.

YELP-The Institute of Neurological Recovery

30 posted on 03/29/2018 11:29:13 PM PDT by henbane
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The Institute of Neurological Recovery (INR) Is it B.S. or Blessing? Hoax or Heaven-Sent?

Looks like this "Institue" is nest of scamsters.

Check out the Ripoff Report website for a lengthy commentary on one poor soul's experience.

Complaint Review: Institute of Neurological Recovery

More victims are found on Yelp--a place where people can report these kinds of operations that target people in desperate health conditions.

Here's a couple of examples:

Yelp recently removed my old review about my experience dealing with this group because I was writing on behalf of 2 people who were stroke survivors (and couldn't type themselves). Nevertheless, I personally experienced the bad reputation of this place through their fake "free consultations". Don't believe it. They should just advertise upfront, it will be several hundred to see a doc for evaluation. The shot itself is an off-label use of etanercept (Enbrel) . See above complaint about the reprimand these guys agreed to under their bad business (medical) practices.

And this one:

Dad suffered a stroke leaving the left side of his body paralyzed and with double vision. He had an injection "procedure" done a week ago. Nothing...and I mean no effect. I knew it was a scam but after repeated attempts I didn't have the heart to keep trying to convince my dad that the injection wouldn't work. He had his hopes hung on this procedure. I did my research prior and everything I read explained why wouldn't work but they had my pops hooked. $700 for an "evaluation" that a school nurse could've performed and $6800 for a fake treatment...and from people who are not neurologists. Shameful.

Plenty more horror stories at the Yelp link below.

.Run--do not walk--from this Venus flytrap.

YELP-The Institute of Neurological Recovery

31 posted on 03/29/2018 11:29:13 PM PDT by henbane
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This institute is about a 1/2 mile from my home I walk past it everyday on my walk. Who Knew!


36 posted on 03/30/2018 4:53:25 AM PDT by PoloSec (polosec)
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Later


38 posted on 03/30/2018 5:35:55 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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I have been practicing medicine for 44 years, and have been involved in many exciting and dramatic advances, as well as innumerable frauds preying on the sick and disabled.

A good guide to follow: If it’s published on YouTube, it’s a fraud.


40 posted on 03/30/2018 7:40:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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