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Biggest Mistake EVER, President Trump. EVER.
Original content | 3/11/2018 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 03/11/2018 3:55:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY could ever call me a Never Trumper. In fact, I was perhaps one of the very first Trump supporters on this forum.

However, by using his Executive Order to ban bump-stocks as machine guns -- despite the fact that they STILL PULL ONE TRIGGER FOR ONE ROUND BEING FIRED -- he has just done something in an extra-judicial manner.

Despite the clear language of the law that defines automatic weapons -- that one trigger pull discharges multiple rounds continuously -- his EO causes the language to be ignored.

Now, I get that Trump bashed the NRA, then met with them the next day. I get that. That’s chicken feed for the liberals and RINOs.

BUT

Trump banned bump stocks pretty much by Executive Order.

DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THAT MEANS?

It means the first Democrat who gets elected will ban ALL SEMIAUTOS by Executive Order. All they have to do, with this precedent, is show someone firing a semi-auto in a bump-fire method using a pants belt-loop. Voila: It's a full-auto. Therefore, it can be EO'd away.

The right thing to have done was to encourage / demand the House give him a bump stock ban bill. Then get it through the Senate. Then sign it.

But by doing what he just did, he made it possible for Dems to EO firearms away.


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To: Kenny
But POTUS had a great meeting with the NRA, both sides said so. I don’t think Trump’s doing anything he didn’t put through them.

The NRA already signaled that they wouldn't object to a bump-fire stock ban after the Las Vegas shooting.

41 posted on 03/11/2018 4:17:19 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Lazamataz

Hopefully the pan is to get the EO overturned in court. Win for Trump by “doing something”, win for the NRA by getting it struck down.


42 posted on 03/11/2018 4:17:41 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: anton
It isn’t an EO its an ATF rule.

A distinction without a difference. I need a Bill, a legally-drafted and signed Bill. Otherwise, nothing stops the Dems from banning all semis by 'an ATF rule'.

43 posted on 03/11/2018 4:18:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Lazamataz

Take a chill pill.


44 posted on 03/11/2018 4:18:44 PM PDT by McGruff (It's time to investigate the investigators)
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To: PhiloBedo

Yeah, the NRA, itself, has said they do not consider bumpstocks to be firearms, at all, and therefore any regulation of them has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.


45 posted on 03/11/2018 4:19:24 PM PDT by jyo19
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To: Lazamataz

Won’t matter.

Nothing Trumps proposes has any impact on what Dems would do.


46 posted on 03/11/2018 4:19:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: anton
It is a reversal of an ATF rule allowing them, promulgated under Obama no less, and ordered by Trump.
47 posted on 03/11/2018 4:20:06 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Lazamataz

Agency rules are subject to review and must comply with the underlying statute. Not to worry. You can call a fork a spoon but when the definition is reviewed by a court, its still a fork.

Bump stocks are not worth a review by us or them.


48 posted on 03/11/2018 4:20:43 PM PDT by anton
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To: Vaquero

Its not your belt. It is the belt loops on your pants.


49 posted on 03/11/2018 4:21:12 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: Lazamataz

Executive orders are not enforceable laws, and they only directly affect government workers. They do not rewrite law.


50 posted on 03/11/2018 4:21:25 PM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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To: McGruff
Take a chill pill.

No offense, you are a friend, however:

"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance" -- John Philpot Curran, 1790.

"Take a chill pill" -- McGruff

51 posted on 03/11/2018 4:21:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Lazamataz

Let them try that.


52 posted on 03/11/2018 4:21:42 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Lazamataz

You might want to wait for the first court case to see how that goes.

Recall that most of Obama’s EO’s were adjudicated to be unconstitutional.


53 posted on 03/11/2018 4:21:43 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Lazamataz

I get it, but I do feel he’s not going to be Gd. It really is a nothing burger and he didn’t outlaw any weapons.


54 posted on 03/11/2018 4:22:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: NutsOnYew; Kenny; Lazamataz
The President is making a PR move trying to get out of the line of fire, but he set a very dangerous precedent.

The DEMOCRATS, regardless to any precedent, will abuse their power when in office. It's guaranteed in the Constitution.

55 posted on 03/11/2018 4:22:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Lazamataz

Word on the street is he is going after 21 and below sales as well. No clear on exact approach, to be put in NCIS bill.


56 posted on 03/11/2018 4:23:15 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld
Executive orders are not enforceable laws, and they only directly affect government workers.

Yes. You are correct.

They only directly affect government workers, such as the FBI or ATF, in who they arrest, or kill while resisting said arrest.

That is an indirect affect to the rest of us.

57 posted on 03/11/2018 4:23:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm not a gun owner, so a compromise banning bump stocks seems like a nothing giveaway to me, which is probably how 2/3 rds or more of America see it. ....Reasonable, able to bend...he's doing something. it helps him bury the libs in the end....which is more important to me.

A conservative SC can overturn it, as they probably should and will.

58 posted on 03/11/2018 4:24:37 PM PDT by chiller (If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have none at all.)
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To: Blue Turtle

“Something has to be done”... About the killing, yes. About the guns? Wrong answer. The guns didn’t do it.

“banning bump stocks, and raising age limit are reasonable changes.” Unfortunately they are also useless... and one of them is unconstitutional.

A person who is willing to commit mass murder is not bothered by trivialities (to them) like these. Only the law abiding are deprived of the ability to defend their lives.


59 posted on 03/11/2018 4:24:45 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: lodi90; Lazamataz

The problem is by the time we man up and take a real stand there won’t be any hills left just grave mounds.


60 posted on 03/11/2018 4:27:53 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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