Posted on 03/10/2018 7:18:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Over the last few decades, weve seen a revolutionary change in the way marriage works in America.
In your great-grandparents heyday, relationships were more about raising a family and making a living than love. That doesnt mean there wasnt any love involved; it just means the motivations were often a little different than they are today. Women wanted to get out from under the same roof as their parents and have kids. When a woman found a decent man who treated her well and seemed like he could provide for her and her children, that was often enough of a foundation to build a marriage. After all, the country was much poorer then, so her parents couldnt necessarily support her and she didnt have a lot of job options. A husband was the best financial option most women had back then.
Today, most women can take care of themselves and those who cant have the federal government helping them, so they dont NEED a man to take care of them financially. Combine this with the fact that financial opportunities for uneducated and unskilled men are dramatically reduced from the pre-shipping container/pre-computer age and marriage has been forever changed. That male dockworker can no longer support a family by himself and even if the wealthier, more educated female executive were to marry him (and she probably wouldnt because he has less status than she does), the marriage would be far less stable because financial need wouldnt hold them together.
This has a lot to do with why divorce happened much less frequently in the past. Not only was it a little scandalous to get divorced, a woman had a lot more worries about how to pay her bills if she decided to go her own way. That combination of financial need and social stigma held people together. Consider that the 1967 crude (divorce) rate was 8.7 times as large as that for 1867 and it becomes obvious that marriage was a much more certain bet for previous generations of Americans.
As the need for financial security has fallen away, love has become the primary motivator of people who want to marry. The problem with that is that love can be one fickle b*tch.
For most people, that hot, passionate love driven by hormones that makes you crazy for someone else typically doesnt last forever. Additionally, as people say, familiarity breeds contempt. When a woman is on year three of sex with the same person, she just picked his stained underwear off the floor again and what she thought were cute little idiosyncrasies early on have started to get on her nerves, love has turned out to be a much less effective cement than financial necessity. Thats very important because almost 70 percent of the time the woman is the one who files for divorce.
Given that we have a justice system that rewards women and punishes men at every opportunity during and after a divorce, its no surprise that women are more likely to be the ones ending the marriage. Courts heavily side with women over men when it comes to custody of the children. Chances are if youre a man in a battle for custody, youre going to lose and then youre going to be forced to pay through the nose for the privilege of not getting to spend as much time with your kids as you like. Speaking of which, financially, the courts still act as if were in the thirties. Certainly, there could be a situation where a significant alimony payment would be the only fair solution, but that should be a fairly rare occurrence in this day and age.
Imagine a secretary who makes $30,000 a year who marries a CEO making 10 million dollars a year. Five years later, they get divorced. How much does she deserve? Most women would say half. At least half of what he made while they were together. The honest answer a lot of men would give you would be nothing. You know how much she contributed to the mans success in his career? Nothing of significance. How much is she worth in the working world after the marriage? About the same as she was before, plus shes had the advantage of having her much richer husband buy her things for years that shell take with her. Do you know what he should owe her in that situation after five years of marriage that didnt work out in the end? Nothing, just like she owes him. Yet and still, in many states, her husband would be expected to keep her living in the style to which she has become accustomed. This is exactly the reason that any MAN WHO ALREADY HAS MONEY is crazy if he doesnt insist on a prenuptial contract before a wedding. Is that romantic? No, but neither is giving a woman who hates your guts half your money. Does it imply youre not 100 percent sure the marriage will last? Yes, it does, but in a world where divorce is so common, no one can really be sure a marriage will last anymore. You can claim otherwise if you like, but youre just whistling past the graveyard. Ive known women who divorced a husband because he lost his job and had trouble finding another one; because she wanted to relive her party years at 35 years old with two kids; because she decided her husband wasnt manly enough; it goes on and on and on. What I am telling you is that there are no guarantees and your sweet, reasonable honey who loves you to death may decide she wants out of the marriage and turn into a monster once she has a lawyer whispering in her ear during the divorce. Guess what? Usually, the guy never sees it coming.
This can lead to a situation where youre paying for the lifestyle of a woman who doesnt want to be with you anymore and is using your kids as a weapon against you while you struggle financially. I know more than one man who has been in this situation. Almost every man does these days. Some people would tell you thats just the price of marriage. Hey, if shes not worth that, then dont get married. But how often does the opposite situation happen? How often is a woman stuck paying the bills for her ex-husband while he has the kids after he decided he just wasnt in love anymore? Ive never heard of a situation like that, although Im sure it has probably happened. This is an enormous risk that marriage entails for men, but generally not for women.
You also cant underestimate the impact of having reliable female birth control and women pursuing their careers. Between college and many women trying to climb the career ladder, marriages are occurring later than ever. There was a time in American history when 80% of people were married by 21. That is no longer true.
Barely half of all adults in the United Statesa record loware currently married, and the median age at first marriage has never been higher for brides (26.5 years) and grooms (28.7), according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of U.S. Census data. In 1960, 72% of all adults ages 18 and older were married; today just 51% are. If current trends continue, the share of adults who are currently married will drop to below half within a few years.
The longer you wait to get married, the less of a chance there is that the marriage will produce children. Take the potential of having children out of the equation and marriage is even less appealing to many men. Keep in mind that single women can now easily avoid pregnancy and have become much more promiscuous than they used to be. Does that mean every single guy is getting laid left and right? Not at all, but it does mean that sex is much more available to the average single man than it was 100 years ago. In other words, even if a man never gets married, he doesnt have to forego sex. In fact, he has the opportunity to have sex with multiple women, an attractive proposition to most men that would be denied to him if he were married. On top of that, he doesnt have to take on any burdens. Hes not financially responsible for his girlfriend. He doesnt have to take care of the kid she had with another guy five years ago. Theres no potential for a brutal divorce if things dont work out. Typically, women are the ones who grew up dreaming of the perfect wedding and the commitment that followed. Most men just grew up dreaming of having sex with beautiful women.
At one time, those two fantasies had to merge. When our society was less promiscuous, the man needed to get married to have regular access to sex. He got what he wanted and she got what she wanted. Is that still true today? The numbers say No.
Back in the early 1990s, the average American had sex about 60 to 62 times per year, but that number dropped to less than 53 times per year by 2014. Among married couples specifically, the drop was even more dramatic - from about 73 times per year in 1990 to 55 in 2014. This actually brings the sex lives of married couples below people who've never been married, who have sex about 59 times per year as of 2014. So if youre a man, getting married may very well mean LESS SEX and with the same woman instead of potentially sleeping with multiple women. It also means risking a soul-ripping divorce where the court system will be stacked against you. Oh, and dont even mention the old, Getting married? Wow, Ill be treated like a king! fantasy that men had once. Today, youre more likely to be treated to demands that you do half the weekly housework.
When you look at that sort of thing, its easy to understand why some men are simply opposed to marriage. I am not one of those men, but I will tell you the scales have tipped too far against men in marriage. By that, I mean that unless something changes that shifts the institution of marriage back onto more favorable ground for men, marriage will have great difficulty recovering in America. Since marriage is one of the most important building blocks of a successful society, thats something none of us should want.
Re-criminalize adultery and get rid of no-fault divorce. That and reducing or eliminating welfare would ensure that marriage once again becomes more like the covenant that it was meant to be.
>>the long-term impact on fertility will be absolutely devastating.
That was always the goal. Kill of the West.
In concocting a war on men, so called feminists failed to consider men might just withdraw from the battlefield and leave them nothing.
I am 67 years old. I got married 36 years ago to the greatest woman alive. I don’t know what I would do without her. If I had my way I would be married to her for 136 years. I am the lucky one. We have 3 of the greatest children. I have been blessed beyond my widest dreams.
Made me chuckle.....dry
I hear your pain and agree with much of the dilemma you elucidate
But that 93-96 percent is wrong
First marriages fail around a third
Was up to 40 thirty years ago but has declined
I think mostly cause now mostly only serious folks bother to marry given our immorality pervasiveness
When you can’t argue with the facts make personal attacks. Real nice.
That's a bogus "statistic".
THe CDC says that 50% of first marriages for women end in divorce after 20 years, and 30% of first marriages for men end in divorce after 10 years.
Not the same at all.
Big reason: there is a deliberate movement to take jobs from men and give them to women. Take away a man’s job, and you deny his manhood. A man needs to be the strong provider.
Why dont you tell us how to lead a woman that refuses to follow?
Scam?!
Are you talking about a failed pass?
Regards,
So... what's your point? What is it you wish to contribute to the conversation?
Regards,
The problem is not having enough kids..think about it...look around you will see couple with three or more kids get divorced less.. this just from observing...I could be wrong..
Pray tell, how do you make sure God is at the center of someone elses life?
Never be surprised by what a woman thinks she deserves.
“What I am telling you is that there are no guarantees and your sweet, reasonable honey who loves you to death may decide she wants out of the marriage and turn into a monster once she has a lawyer whispering in her ear during the divorce.”
Awesome posting. Keep in mind, at least with US-born women, it’s not just the lawyer, it’s also her siblings (particularly sisters), her friends, her co-workers, and likely others who she knows. The guy never has a chance.
The first step for men who want their marriage to last is to marry into a culture that VALUES MARRIAGE, which means, sadly, a non-US and non-Western culture. Lots of options out there though...
And the significance of that is...?
“In your great-grandparents heyday, relationships were more about raising a family and making a living than love.”
Drivel.
The author may say some good things, but starting with that drivel questions his credibility.
Too many people read something or other about “the way it was”, in former times, think they are stating something that is a verifiable fact, and just believe it; and then repeat it themselves, as if it is a given that everyone understands is true.
It’s nonsense.
This...I lost my two sons, 400k, half my property, and my kayak to a narcissist wife. Young men-screw marriage even to a non narc wife. Kids are wonderful and our reason to be but the wife and courts hold them as implements of extortion......
Hell, you look at that reason alone and begin to understand why more of this generation of men are turning to dolls to satisfy their sexual desires. Dolls won't sue you, ruin you, manipulate you, or stalk you.
I am so blessed to be married to a godly woman of noble character. This generation is lost.
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